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I certainly wouldn't dispute the existence of those managers- I'm thankful to have had some good managers who go to bat for their direct reports.

• wahnfrieden 3y ago
  You had managers who "took the fall" for the team? The thread is about accepting blame and sacrifice, not about advocating for people under you
  • RankingMember 3y ago
    > You had managers who "took the fall" for the team? Correct. In addition, sometimes advocating for those under you is a sacrificial act, because you're putting your reputation on the line.
    • wahnfrieden 3y ago
      Sounds performative rather than anything real at stake. Managers are expected to lay down rhetoric about accountability and contextualizing their team's failure.
      • RankingMember 3y ago
        > Managers are expected to lay down rhetoric about accountability and contextualizing their team's failure. It sounds like the management philosophies at our respective orgs are very different.