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> what managers are bringing to the table What I noticed in my org, are the senior managers are the ones who get to talk to the business people and get to mudd
by rs999gti 3y ago
> what managers are bringing to the table
What I noticed in my org, are the senior managers are the ones who get to talk to the business people and get to muddle the waters and do a lot of repetitive work.
Sometimes things do not get done until a project manager or senior dev actually talks to the business person and gets the correct requirements out.
I don't know why it is this way at my org, but the IT director does not want to talk to PMs, Devs, or Analysts. He would rather have a top level circle of senior managers who insulate him from the actual work.
- juve1996 3y ago> I don't know why it is this way at my org, but the IT director does not want to talk to PMs, Devs, or Analysts. He would rather have a top level circle of senior managers who insulate him from the actual work. To me this makes...sense. A general doesn't meet each individual field soldier, it's not feasible and doesn't scale. Not sure what kind of firms people on here work for, but most of my managers all the way up have 0 life at all. They're constantly working dealing with millions of little details where they have to make an instant decision. It honestly looks like hell.
- rs999gti 3y agoIt makes sense to me with 3/5 senior managers. They came from working IT backgrounds as developers, network admins, or SAP developers/senior admins. 2/5 of these senior managers have zero IT experience either in role or outside of this company. Yet they make very technical decisions, which either need to be corrected or clarified. Complaints to the director about this have fallen on deaf ears.
- juve1996 3y agoSeems to be accurate. The fact is there is a need for 5/5 competent managers but it's unlikely to find 5/5 competent managers. Just as there are 10x devs and 1x devs.