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With this PR https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/pull/6755 https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/pull/6755 I tried to make the policy a bit more clear after we got a ni

With this PR https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/pull/6755 https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/pull/6755 I tried to make the policy a bit more clear after we got a nice issue report about it. To be clear: only binary builds of stable versions of Infinite Scale that the ownCloud company is shipping are protected by the EULA. The source code license is Apache2 or AGPL for some parts, and is not touched by this of course. The EULA even allows free use widely, including private, non-commercial and in commercial contexts. It does not allow hosting. We hope to provide a clear and understandable regulation for the project with this, that is protecting our efforts to a certain degree.

pdoub 3y ago
`It does not allow hosting.` as in "you are not allowed to provide others with oCIS instances and ask them to pay for it"?
- dragooc 3y ago
  right, this is not allowed by the EULA of the binaries released by ownCloud GmbH.
plagiarist 3y ago
Am I reading correctly that building from source would still allow for commercial hosting contexts (subject to AGPL)? If that is the case, I don't understand how the EULA benefits anyone enough to want it.
- dragooc 3y ago
  The source is available under free licenses, so you can build and do with it what these licenses allow, which is basically anything. Most serious companies however appreciate a proper business relationship with defined, vendor supplied builds, that they can plan with etc. Remember that somebody who builds from source can not call us asking for reactions of any kind. That is were the EULA comes to value.
  - plagiarist 3y ago
    Thank you, that makes a bit more sense.
m463 3y ago
I remember RMS saying the GPL doesn't restrict how you USE the software. It just adds the responsibility of providing source code to the users. If it doesn't allow some uses, I don't think it is free software. restricting availability of binaries might be ok with free software. I don't know.

pdoub 3y ago

`It does not allow hosting.` as in "you are not allowed to provide others with oCIS instances and ask them to pay for it"?

dragooc 3y ago
right, this is not allowed by the EULA of the binaries released by ownCloud GmbH.

plagiarist 3y ago

Am I reading correctly that building from source would still allow for commercial hosting contexts (subject to AGPL)? If that is the case, I don't understand how the EULA benefits anyone enough to want it.

dragooc 3y ago
The source is available under free licenses, so you can build and do with it what these licenses allow, which is basically anything. Most serious companies however appreciate a proper business relationship with defined, vendor supplied builds, that they can plan with etc. Remember that somebody who builds from source can not call us asking for reactions of any kind. That is were the EULA comes to value.
- plagiarist 3y ago
  Thank you, that makes a bit more sense.

m463 3y ago

I remember RMS saying the GPL doesn't restrict how you USE the software. It just adds the responsibility of providing source code to the users. If it doesn't allow some uses, I don't think it is free software. restricting availability of binaries might be ok with free software. I don't know.