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>It's not our individual prerogative I mean that it is entirely our prerogative to disagree on whether one should recognize an expert, immediately upon engagin

>It's not our individual prerogative I mean that it is entirely our prerogative to disagree on whether one should recognize an expert, immediately upon engaging with them. There's nothing in the HN guidelines that indicate otherwise - unless your point is that one should have respect for the potential experience of everyone one encounters on HN, which is fair. But I still contend that your position that we should all know saagarjhas' competence is entirely unreasonable. There are tens of thousands of such individuals here on HN, how are we supposed to know we're talking to the very founders of the technology we're discussing? Its unreasonable, but its your prerogative to make the statement, "don't argue with saagarjha, he's an expert", and its just as viable to see this is a "call to authority fallacy" designed to shut down honest, viable - and valuable - dialog that results from the challenge to this so-called authority. In other words I don't think you're applying the HN guideliness effectively. Please let people challenge experts - its important to our community, after all. >Federighi and Cook. Never accept technical management from someone who can't do your job. This is Peter Principle, 101. Someone at Apple is dropping a lot of balls lately, and it shows in the very poor quality of their releases over the last few years. The notification system is entirely dysfunctional, on both iOS and MacOS - I would wager the bureaucrats don't actually use these tools.

coldtea 3y ago
Meanwhile, why and how would they know who "saagarjha"is and whether they're an expert? Are they supposed to be famous, I mean Carmack or Lattner famous no "they are known in some circles". Even if they visit their blog, they can just see: "Hi, I'm Saagar Jha. I'm a software engineer from Cupertino, California, but I spend an inordinate amount of time in the southern part of the state" and a list of smaller projects and experiments.
lapcat 3y ago
> unless your point is that one should have respect for the potential experience of everyone one encounters on HN, which is fair. Yes, that is my point. And I think it should also apply especially to the article authors, who are all too often disrespected and dismissed. > Please let people challenge experts - its important to our community, after all. Of course. But challenge them intelligently not dismissively. > Never accept technical management from someone who can't do your job. Well, I'm self-employed, so. ;-) On the other hand, I made more money when I worked for someone else, so that's a big tradeoff.
- boffinAudio 3y ago
  >And I think it should also apply especially to the article authors, who are all too often disrespected and dismissed. We agree, thanks for the kind conversation. >Well, I'm self-employed, so. ;-) Well whatever you do, don't give yourself a promotion! :P

coldtea 3y ago

Meanwhile, why and how would they know who "saagarjha"is and whether they're an expert? Are they supposed to be famous, I mean Carmack or Lattner famous no "they are known in some circles". Even if they visit their blog, they can just see: "Hi, I'm Saagar Jha. I'm a software engineer from Cupertino, California, but I spend an inordinate amount of time in the southern part of the state" and a list of smaller projects and experiments.

lapcat 3y ago

> unless your point is that one should have respect for the potential experience of everyone one encounters on HN, which is fair. Yes, that is my point. And I think it should also apply especially to the article authors, who are all too often disrespected and dismissed. > Please let people challenge experts - its important to our community, after all. Of course. But challenge them intelligently not dismissively. > Never accept technical management from someone who can't do your job. Well, I'm self-employed, so. ;-) On the other hand, I made more money when I worked for someone else, so that's a big tradeoff.

boffinAudio 3y ago
>And I think it should also apply especially to the article authors, who are all too often disrespected and dismissed. We agree, thanks for the kind conversation. >Well, I'm self-employed, so. ;-) Well whatever you do, don't give yourself a promotion! :P