The "starting point for discussion" is surely the intended and expected value of the trolley problem. But it's probably reasonable to point out that the moral/

The "starting point for discussion" is surely the intended and expected value of the trolley problem. But it's probably reasonable to point out that the moral/ethical decisions that we most often have to make on a day to day basis almost never involve having to decide who lives and who dies - which we should be profoundly grateful for!