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• nubinetwork 3y ago
  I've applied for 4 Linux admin jobs in the past 6 months... First job didn't even contact me, and it disappeared from LinkedIn 3 weeks later. Second and third job didn't contact me for months, only to get an automated rejection email. The last job gave me an interview, and looked at me funny when I told them I only program as a hobby. It really sounds like they wanted a developer and an admin, but didn't want to hire two separate people (it was not a "devops" position). When I asked for an update, they told me there were 2 positions available, and who they hired for one dictated who they hired for the other. I haven't heard from them since, and at this point, and I expect another automated rejection email in the next month or so. So yeah, HR people kindof suck.
  • prepend 3y ago
    > The last job gave me an interview, and looked at me funny when I told them I only program as a hobby. It really sounds like they wanted a developer and an admin, but didn't want to hire two separate people (it was not a "devops" position). When I asked for an update, they told me there were 2 positions available, and who they hired for one dictated who they hired for the other. I haven't heard from them since, and at this point, and I expect another automated rejection email in the next month or so. I think there’s different philosophies around sysadmin work and you suffered from a mismatch from the position. I know lots of sysadmins and they all automate tons of stuff. They aren’t “programmers” per se, but they wrote a lot of code. Mostly shell or maybe Perl or python or something similar. And they probably assume all sysadmins program and wouldn’t even think to call that out in the job posting. This is part of hiring I hate the most, the mismatches. There’s no foolproof way I can think of to avoid. Networking is probably best, but that’s hard for me to do. But allows for questions like “so what do you mean by automation, is that like programming or some specific tool?”
    • nubinetwork 3y ago
      > I know lots of sysadmins and they all automate tons of stuff. They aren’t “programmers” per se, but they wrote a lot of code. Mostly shell or maybe Perl or python or something similar. And they probably assume all sysadmins program and wouldn’t even think to call that out in the job posting. I mean shell I can understand, and Perl to a minor degree because of sed/awk pcre regex, but Python is really getting into programmer territory in my books. I wouldn't call myself a programmer by a long shot, I've written a 6502 state machine in C before, but I'm shocked it works at all, and it's not cycle accurate. For what it's worth, this was some redhat shop who use slurm and foreman/katello... it really did seem like they wanted me to write code to run on their cluster (probably C++). It sucks that I'm stuck where I am now, but it could be worse... so I'm not totally mad they've strung me along, but it would be nice if HR folks would say what they actually mean/want, and be prompt about it. Applicants are people too, and we deserve to know if the job actually exists if we're going to spend the time interviewing and training to get acclimated to whatever setup the CTO/CIO wants us to use to do our job.
    • lakomen 3y ago
      Can't you reply without quoting 99% of the original post
      • prepend 3y ago
        Yes, certainly. That’s why I did reply without quoting 99% of the original post. Your arithmetic is off.