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I'm a paying user of Evernote and have a lot of notes in it. I vaguely fear the moment that Evernote will throw the towel. I tried to orient what would be an af

I'm a paying user of Evernote and have a lot of notes in it. I vaguely fear the moment that Evernote will throw the towel. I tried to orient what would be an affordable, future-safe alternative, but I haven't found any. The fact that I can create notes from mobile and desktop, with integration into the browser are my main requirements. Who has a suggestion?

besil 3y ago
Obsidian app + sync
RayVR 3y ago
Inkdrop is quite good but I don't know if there is a browser view.
Traubenfuchs 3y ago
I have never used Evernote, but it sounds a little bit like... Google Docs?
pacifika 3y ago
OneNote, Apple Notes, BookStack, a private blog from various providers, NextCloud Notes, GitHub Wiki or Issues list on an empty repo, Dropbox Paper. I suspect you’ll have more requirements.
murrayb 3y ago
Joplin has served me well as an Evernote replacement. If by integration with the browser you mean snipping content then I think it meets your requirements.
- JenrHywy 3y ago
  Plus you can self-host Joplin server and be completely I'm control of your data.
pantulis 3y ago
> I tried to orient what would be an affordable, future-safe alternative, but I haven't found any. I think it would be OneNote. But if you really wand to future proof your data, I think nothing beats using Obsidian on top of a bunch of folders in a cloud drive. I am all-in on Apple and I replaced Evernote with iCloud Drive, Notebooks.app, Obsidian and EagleFiler all pointing to the same "vault" folder. While on mobile I just use the regular Files app to browse the iCloud Drive. It's much less convenient than just using Evernote, and that's exactly Evernote's greatness.
- _han 3y ago
  I can also recommend Obsidian's iOS app if you haven't tried it!
  - pantulis 3y ago
    But the Obsidian iOS app forces you to use the default iCloud location for your vault folder, which cannot easily be accessed by other apps even on Desktop due to the strange macOS/iOS permissions. For example, if memory serves, Chrome on desktop will not generate .webloc files there by dragging and dropping the URL from the address bar (although Safari will). For my use case, I do not do much note creation while on mobile, so it's enough to use iOS Files app with a bunch of favorites.
iakov 3y ago
I've switched to Obsidian two years ago and I am 100% happy with it. All my notes and attachments are stored in iCloud, Obsidian works great on all Apple devices and even Windows. There is no browser integration AFAIK, but I might be wrong - there are tons of third-party plugins. I love the fact that all my notes are Markdown files - gives me peace of mind.
- pantulis 3y ago
  > There is no browser integration AFAIK, but I might be wrong - there are tons of third-party plugins. On Safari, MarkDownload extesion works great for me.
3np 3y ago
From recent threads, the top contenders for self-hosted are: - https://github.com/laurent22/joplin https://github.com/laurent22/joplin - https://github.com/logseq/logseq https://github.com/logseq/logseq - https://github.com/zadam/trilium https://github.com/zadam/trilium There is also https://github.com/foambubble/foam https://github.com/foambubble/foam mentioned, which I haven't looked properly at yet. For managed/hosted, those all have some variety of options for that. Also https://obsidian.md/ https://obsidian.md/, https://www.notion.so/notes https://www.notion.so/notes, https://roamresearch.com https://roamresearch.com, and OneNote.
- bjackman 3y ago
  I've been using Foam for the last 6 months or so, it's very simple but I find it pretty effective and it's pleasant to edit notes with the same tool I edit code with. However the only compatible mobile app I've found is GitJournal. It's well designed but unfortunately hopelessly buggy. I think for work (where I always just use my laptop) I'll keep using Foam but for personal notes I'm planning to try out Joplin.
TheCapeGreek 3y ago
+1 for Obsidian. I managed my notes with VSCode (using Markdown extensions) & Nextcloud for device sync. Now I use Obsidian + Syncthing. Alternatively Obsidian Sync for a fee to make it even easier.
lostlogin 3y ago
Bear looks pretty neat and I’ve been close to switching to it (from Apple Notes) for a while. Markdown is attractive and you can export from Apple Notes. Not sure how you export from Evernote though. As an aside, the idea of ‘Evernote’ going away is darkly amusing given the name. https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/exporter/id1099120373?mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/exporter/id1099120373?mt=12 https://bear.app/ https://bear.app/

besil 3y ago

Obsidian app + sync

RayVR 3y ago

Inkdrop is quite good but I don't know if there is a browser view.

Traubenfuchs 3y ago

I have never used Evernote, but it sounds a little bit like... Google Docs?

pacifika 3y ago

OneNote, Apple Notes, BookStack, a private blog from various providers, NextCloud Notes, GitHub Wiki or Issues list on an empty repo, Dropbox Paper. I suspect you’ll have more requirements.

murrayb 3y ago

Joplin has served me well as an Evernote replacement. If by integration with the browser you mean snipping content then I think it meets your requirements.

JenrHywy 3y ago
Plus you can self-host Joplin server and be completely I'm control of your data.

pantulis 3y ago

> I tried to orient what would be an affordable, future-safe alternative, but I haven't found any. I think it would be OneNote. But if you really wand to future proof your data, I think nothing beats using Obsidian on top of a bunch of folders in a cloud drive. I am all-in on Apple and I replaced Evernote with iCloud Drive, Notebooks.app, Obsidian and EagleFiler all pointing to the same "vault" folder. While on mobile I just use the regular Files app to browse the iCloud Drive. It's much less convenient than just using Evernote, and that's exactly Evernote's greatness.

_han 3y ago
I can also recommend Obsidian's iOS app if you haven't tried it!
- pantulis 3y ago
  But the Obsidian iOS app forces you to use the default iCloud location for your vault folder, which cannot easily be accessed by other apps even on Desktop due to the strange macOS/iOS permissions. For example, if memory serves, Chrome on desktop will not generate .webloc files there by dragging and dropping the URL from the address bar (although Safari will). For my use case, I do not do much note creation while on mobile, so it's enough to use iOS Files app with a bunch of favorites.

iakov 3y ago

I've switched to Obsidian two years ago and I am 100% happy with it. All my notes and attachments are stored in iCloud, Obsidian works great on all Apple devices and even Windows. There is no browser integration AFAIK, but I might be wrong - there are tons of third-party plugins. I love the fact that all my notes are Markdown files - gives me peace of mind.

pantulis 3y ago
> There is no browser integration AFAIK, but I might be wrong - there are tons of third-party plugins. On Safari, MarkDownload extesion works great for me.

3np 3y ago

From recent threads, the top contenders for self-hosted are: - https://github.com/laurent22/joplin https://github.com/laurent22/joplin - https://github.com/logseq/logseq https://github.com/logseq/logseq - https://github.com/zadam/trilium https://github.com/zadam/trilium There is also https://github.com/foambubble/foam https://github.com/foambubble/foam mentioned, which I haven't looked properly at yet. For managed/hosted, those all have some variety of options for that. Also https://obsidian.md/ https://obsidian.md/, https://www.notion.so/notes https://www.notion.so/notes, https://roamresearch.com https://roamresearch.com, and OneNote.

bjackman 3y ago
I've been using Foam for the last 6 months or so, it's very simple but I find it pretty effective and it's pleasant to edit notes with the same tool I edit code with. However the only compatible mobile app I've found is GitJournal. It's well designed but unfortunately hopelessly buggy. I think for work (where I always just use my laptop) I'll keep using Foam but for personal notes I'm planning to try out Joplin.

TheCapeGreek 3y ago

+1 for Obsidian. I managed my notes with VSCode (using Markdown extensions) & Nextcloud for device sync. Now I use Obsidian + Syncthing. Alternatively Obsidian Sync for a fee to make it even easier.

lostlogin 3y ago

Bear looks pretty neat and I’ve been close to switching to it (from Apple Notes) for a while. Markdown is attractive and you can export from Apple Notes. Not sure how you export from Evernote though. As an aside, the idea of ‘Evernote’ going away is darkly amusing given the name. https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/exporter/id1099120373?mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/exporter/id1099120373?mt=12 https://bear.app/ https://bear.app/