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It's a matter of funding. X11 development is not funded anymore whereas Wayland is heavily funded through proxies like Collabora or Igalia. It is unclear who ar
by sprash 3y ago
It's a matter of funding. X11 development is not funded anymore whereas Wayland is heavily funded through proxies like Collabora or Igalia. It is unclear who are the originators of that money since those proxy orgs don't disclose who funds them.
Since Wayland is a horribly complicated protocol that makes doing even the simplest tasks a major chore I would consider it sabotage. There are multiple billion+ dollar corps out there with a severe interest in a non fuctional FOSS ecosystem.
- growse 3y agoA wild conspiracy theory appears! Of course, like any good conspiracy, it's very competent and expansive, managing to simultaneously secretly convince all the major distros to use it by default and cruelly suppressing any efforts to provide funding and engineering effort towards X11. In reality, Wayland works great for most Linux desktop users (on the mainstream distros) and no-one is funding X because no-one wants to.
- sprash 3y agoEEE was a conspiracy theory as well until the Heloween documents were published. Also no Wayland does not work great for most Linux desktop users. Even not in reality. It works incredibly well at making the life for application developers extra hard though.
- Monsterovich 3y ago> In reality, Wayland works great for most Linux desktop users (on the mainstream distros) and no-one is funding X because no-one wants to. Actually, because it's ready and it works. And yes, most distributions use Xorg by default and all attempts to switch to Wayland fail, ex. Ubuntu. (maybe GNOME is an exception, but it's probably the only DE where Wayland somehow works).
- growse 3y ago> And yes, most distributions use Xorg by default and all attempts to switch to Wayland fail, ex. Ubuntu. (maybe GNOME is an exception, but it's probably the only DE where Wayland somehow works). This is just false. Wayland's the default in Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian (how many users is that?) etc. And it works just fine out of the box on Gnome and KDE/Plasma, the two big DEs.
- kaba0 3y agoOh, can I also get some of that sweet Wayland money? I’m sure that sub-3% desktop users is such a good market. Seriously, these conteo people really have trouble with rational thought — a goddamn chrome extension would be a bigger market.
- sprash 3y agoThe money is paid for Wayland to make sure the FOSS desktop will stay sub-3%. You obviously don't understand the concept of sabotage. (And yes literally millions of dollars have been invested into Wayland)
- robertlagrant 3y agoMillions of dollars sounds like a lot until you realise a million dollars is a team of 5 for a year.
- vetinari 3y agoMillions were invested into Automotive Grade Linux, of which Wayland is a part. Minus the xdg-shell stuff, of course, which isn't needed there.