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Nobody wants to attend. It serves no critical purpose. Axe it.

by throwawaysleep 3y ago

JKCalhoun 3y ago
> It serves no critical purpose. Axe it. Well, there goes pretty much everything interesting in college.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Engineering and sciences are super interesting. Heck, puppets sound sooo boring. Literature sounds incredibly boring. Theatre? So boring professors had to give extra credit so people would attend. Meanwhile our robotics senior project had a huge portion of the school watching because we were shooting projectiles. (but really my favorites were chemistry lab, and quantum chemistry(PChem2), maybe my programming classes too)
  - ramesh31 3y ago
    t. HN poster
  - AlexandrB 3y ago
    I seem to recall one pretty famous CEO talk about how their company was successful because "it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing". But yeah, let's throw all that liberal arts shit overboard - who needs it.
    - hospitalJail 3y ago
      There are plenty of liberal arts that are more than entertainment.
    - drewcoo 3y ago
      > because "it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing". Liberal arts includes the humanities. There's something distinctly Oedipal about that company . . .
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Different people find different things interesting. Literature and theater can certainly be interesting even if some tech people find anything outside of STEM boring. Never personally had anything to do with puppetry but found plenty of stuff outside of engineering/sciences interesting (and did basically no programming in college).
  - DiscourseFan 3y ago
    Robotics also sounds cool, but while I'm sure the showy performances for the students were interesting, the nitty-gritty of programming and fine detail probably wouldn't be. Whereas in literature, it is the deep analysis of a text that brings greater richness and makes it more fully satisfying to read, the pleasure is not necessarily from the spectacle but its careful consideration. Borges is an author who many of my friends in the sciences enjoy. He explores ideas that you may find interesting; try The Library of Babel [0], its very short and easy to read (like most of his works). Another novel which you may find perversely enjoyable is Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel, which contains a series of descriptions of strange and fantastical machines in fine detail, each associated with a different and increasingly deranged tale. You might also be interested in the intersection of literature and computer science with Sanskrit, the first formalized language claimed to have been made "context-free" 2500 years ago (though I wouldn't say so), which has a rich literary tradition deeply intertwined with its structure and logic. There are many other examples of literatures you may find interesting, but I'll leave that pursuit up to you! [0]https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Borges-The-Library-of-Babel.pdf https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content...
    - hospitalJail 3y ago
      Idk, my kid thought it was super cool seeing I could blink LEDs with programming. No thanks on the Fiction. If I am going to waste time, I'm going to play minecraft with my kid.
  - leviathant 3y ago
    I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm. This... > Heck, puppets sound sooo boring. ...followed by... >Meanwhile our robotics senior project had a huge portion of the school watching because we were shooting projectiles. ...sure says a lot. You can draw a direct line from the art of puppetry to the evolution of robotics. My degree is in computer science, I wrote code for ages, now I'm a presales engineer regularly meeting with C-suite types and their engineering departments. Nearly every year for the last decade, I've also on staff at the annual National Puppetry conference (as a musician) where I get to work with some of the quick-witted, talented problem solvers I've met. Working in puppets means working in costume design, set design, creative writing, storytelling, engineering, lighting design, sound design, project management, the whole gamut. I credit the experience I get working with puppeteers for helping advance my career as a 'computer nerd' What I find bizarre is that we're in such a consumer-driven culture, but taking humanities out of focus in education has changed how people perceive creativity. The most boring people in the world are talking about using AI to create derivative art, while ignoring centuries of history around training for the arts. >Literature sounds incredibly boring. Theatre? So boring professors had to give extra credit so people would attend. To each their own, but oof.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >... my favorites... Ah, therein lies the rub. Your post reads like you're applying your own tastes/interests to, well, everyone. You are not everyone else.
    - DiscourseFan 3y ago
      People's tastes do not develop in isolation
      - jjulius 3y ago
        And yet what's trash to one person is still treasure to another.

Nobody wants to attend. It serves no critical purpose. Axe it.

JKCalhoun 3y ago

> It serves no critical purpose. Axe it. Well, there goes pretty much everything interesting in college.

hospitalJail 3y ago
Engineering and sciences are super interesting. Heck, puppets sound sooo boring. Literature sounds incredibly boring. Theatre? So boring professors had to give extra credit so people would attend. Meanwhile our robotics senior project had a huge portion of the school watching because we were shooting projectiles. (but really my favorites were chemistry lab, and quantum chemistry(PChem2), maybe my programming classes too)
- ramesh31 3y ago
  t. HN poster
- AlexandrB 3y ago
  I seem to recall one pretty famous CEO talk about how their company was successful because "it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing". But yeah, let's throw all that liberal arts shit overboard - who needs it.
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    There are plenty of liberal arts that are more than entertainment.
  - drewcoo 3y ago
    > because "it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing". Liberal arts includes the humanities. There's something distinctly Oedipal about that company . . .
- ghaff 3y ago
  Different people find different things interesting. Literature and theater can certainly be interesting even if some tech people find anything outside of STEM boring. Never personally had anything to do with puppetry but found plenty of stuff outside of engineering/sciences interesting (and did basically no programming in college).
- DiscourseFan 3y ago
  Robotics also sounds cool, but while I'm sure the showy performances for the students were interesting, the nitty-gritty of programming and fine detail probably wouldn't be. Whereas in literature, it is the deep analysis of a text that brings greater richness and makes it more fully satisfying to read, the pleasure is not necessarily from the spectacle but its careful consideration. Borges is an author who many of my friends in the sciences enjoy. He explores ideas that you may find interesting; try The Library of Babel [0], its very short and easy to read (like most of his works). Another novel which you may find perversely enjoyable is Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel, which contains a series of descriptions of strange and fantastical machines in fine detail, each associated with a different and increasingly deranged tale. You might also be interested in the intersection of literature and computer science with Sanskrit, the first formalized language claimed to have been made "context-free" 2500 years ago (though I wouldn't say so), which has a rich literary tradition deeply intertwined with its structure and logic. There are many other examples of literatures you may find interesting, but I'll leave that pursuit up to you! [0]https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Borges-The-Library-of-Babel.pdf https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content...
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    Idk, my kid thought it was super cool seeing I could blink LEDs with programming. No thanks on the Fiction. If I am going to waste time, I'm going to play minecraft with my kid.
- leviathant 3y ago
  I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm. This... > Heck, puppets sound sooo boring. ...followed by... >Meanwhile our robotics senior project had a huge portion of the school watching because we were shooting projectiles. ...sure says a lot. You can draw a direct line from the art of puppetry to the evolution of robotics. My degree is in computer science, I wrote code for ages, now I'm a presales engineer regularly meeting with C-suite types and their engineering departments. Nearly every year for the last decade, I've also on staff at the annual National Puppetry conference (as a musician) where I get to work with some of the quick-witted, talented problem solvers I've met. Working in puppets means working in costume design, set design, creative writing, storytelling, engineering, lighting design, sound design, project management, the whole gamut. I credit the experience I get working with puppeteers for helping advance my career as a 'computer nerd' What I find bizarre is that we're in such a consumer-driven culture, but taking humanities out of focus in education has changed how people perceive creativity. The most boring people in the world are talking about using AI to create derivative art, while ignoring centuries of history around training for the arts. >Literature sounds incredibly boring. Theatre? So boring professors had to give extra credit so people would attend. To each their own, but oof.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >... my favorites... Ah, therein lies the rub. Your post reads like you're applying your own tastes/interests to, well, everyone. You are not everyone else.
  - DiscourseFan 3y ago
    People's tastes do not develop in isolation
    - jjulius 3y ago
      And yet what's trash to one person is still treasure to another.