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> They are silent killers. Extraordinarily claims require extraordinary evidence.
by seizethecheese 3y ago
> They are silent killers.
Extraordinarily claims require extraordinary evidence.
- CraftingLinks 3y agoBy which I merely meant, "you don't drop dead, like arsenic poisoning". But that makes them even more dangerous imo. All seems fine, while they accumulate in the evenvironment, foods, people, their offspring,... And when the disastrous effects slowly manifest themselves we already have epidemic levels of impact radious. But, I accept you point.
- mjburgess 3y agoWater is a forever chemical.
- CraftingLinks 3y agoNot in the sense that it accumulates in your body (concentration keeps increasing over time). Water is in steady state with your body, its concentration over time is practically constant.
- FranzFerdiNaN 3y agoYou think that ''chemicals that your body cant dispose of is a bad thing'' is an extraordinarily claim? Do you also still drink water from lead pipes, and huff a piece of asbestos every day?
- TheBigSalad 3y agoThose are toxic. There are no known negative health effects from pfas or microplastics.
- ratg13 3y agoYou are totally neglecting the difficulty of conducting a 40-year randomized trial that is able to control for all other factors.
- thorncorona 3y agolol. imagine having a device capable of searching through the sum of humanity’s knowledge at your fingertips, and making a statement like this.
- f_devd 3y agoThey are toxic because your body can't deal with them, microplastics are -maybe counterintuitively- still large enough to only cause smaller issues like indigestion. For the problems with pfas, read any source from the rest of this thread. In the end if your body could get rid of X, X generally isn't a problem. Sometimes it's chemical (i.e. lead/carbonmonoxide/etc) sometimes it's physical (i.e. asbestos/microplastics), accumulating enough of anything not meant to be processed/disposed in your body will be a problem.
- thorncorona 3y agothe bigger issue with micro plastics is that they are very good ways for transporting other, more toxic, chemicals, into your body.
- CraftingLinks 3y agoI thought the detrimental effects of pfas on immunity was accepted fact by now? Even the mechanism of toxicity is well understood. Surely, we can agree that you don't need instant dead effects to establish a compound to be accepted as detrimental for your health? And not only your health, but that of your offspring as well. The internal documents of 3m and Dupont actually acknowledge as much. That's what the actual outrage is about, they already knew for decades, then tried to hide it because liability costs.
- pinche_gazpacho 3y agoThe burden of proof should be on the seller to demonstrate the safety, not otherwise.
- decremental 3y ago[dead]