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And look at how bloated our development environment is today. Bunch of extensions, themes and language servers. It may sounds oxymoronic since I'm a Zoomer, but

by stevefan1999 3y ago

And look at how bloated our development environment is today. Bunch of extensions, themes and language servers. It may sounds oxymoronic since I'm a Zoomer, but I don't want these eye candies and too much nice-to-haves, and I just want to write programs effectively without attractions, while I want to dev environment to be lightweight as well.

callalex 3y ago
You may be interested in the field of embedded programming.
- stevefan1999 3y ago
  I am! In fact, I used to work with FPGA, MCUs (I'm toying with ESP32-C2/C3) and (still is working on) kernel programming.
jussij 3y ago
You can still program today without using an IDE. Just ask any Vim or Emacs user.
- versteegen 3y ago
  As an Emacs user: don't underestimate the amount of code running inside Emacs, especially if you install a lot of packages. I measure Emacs 28.2 as shipping 1.86M lines of elisp (a bit more than is in the source repo), the core is 540 kLoC of .c/.h files, and I have ~273 kLoC elisp amongst a small set of packages. Sure, Electron itself is probably still an order of magnitude more.
- nunez 3y ago
  Can confirm. Programming in vim is frickin awesome. I was a hardcore notepad++ user before this but decided to spend two weeks using nothing but emacs then, a year or so later, nothing but vim. I had to load up VSCode for a demo I was giving. All of the options and plugins and IntelliType and spurious warnings and stuff was crazy overwhelming.