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> When you say it generically like this, it has no meaning. Among? Top 50% Here are two measures for you: 1) look at the last ten years of Consumer Reports sma

> When you say it generically like this, it has no meaning. Among? Top 50% Here are two measures for you: 1) look at the last ten years of Consumer Reports smartphone rankings. How often is the latest iPhone ranked in the top 3? 2) look at the single core performance, battery life, and screen quality of the original 13" M1 MacBook Air. Now find me a laptop with commensurate performance at the same price point from that time. > You could say this about any company. Its marketing jargon from the best in the world at marketing. The urge to suggest that you seek a refund of the tuition fees for your marketing class is tempered only by a growing feeling that it might have been an elective at high school? > This is no different than when they plaster 'Security' and 'Privacy' in their ads, yet have worse security than Android(if we use pegasus and zerodium for security) Trusted Reviews:[^1] "iPhones are more secure by default. Disk encryption is enabled by default, apps from the App Store go through a stricter vetting process, and Apple doesn’t gather users’ personal details for advertising purposes" Norton:[^2] "There’s no doubt Android is a bit more of a Wild West than iOS, but, with the right precautions, it can still be a safe platform." InfoSecurityBuzz:[^3] "Android had 547 vulnerabilities in the year 2021, compared to 357 for iOS. While both Android and iOS have vulnerabilities […] Android has more overall vulnerabilities [and] a higher proportion of Android vulnerabilities are considered to have a low attack complexity, which means that they are easier to exploit." The claim that Android is more secure than iOS seems like pure fantasy. Can you substantiate it? > and have been known to hand over data(PRISM, data in Russian and chinese data centers). Any foreign company operating a data center in China is required to contract with a domestic partner for legal ownership of the data within the facility and physical security of the location. In this regard, as with PRISM, Apple is no different to Amazon, Microsoft, et al. The only data stored in Apple's Chinese data center is that of its Chinese customers, and I do not believe Apple markets its products as "privacy"-focused in China, where there is almost literally no concept of privacy. Apple has in fact publicly resisted repeated attempts from state and federal authorities to have it insert backdoors into iOS, and launched an amicus legal claim with Meta against the NSO group. But anyway, let's pretend for a second that I grant you all of these fantastical and unsubstantiated claims about iPhone privacy and security, I have some direct questions for you! 1. Can you explain to me why "the marketers" are adopting the same strategy for Vision Pro's launch as they have for every other flagship Apple launch in the last decade? 2. Can you explain why a company with an estimated NPS in range(+65,+80) even _needs_ the best marketers in the world? 3. Can you explain why you seem to believe that it is the job of Apple's marketing team to "normalise" something ex post facto? Isn't it a well understood axiom of Apple's philosophy that until the technology is mature (in this case: thin / light) enough to create a resonant user experience, they will not enter a market? 4. Can you find me that mythical laptop computer to compete with MacBook Air? 5. Can you see a trend looking back at the top 3 smartphones in Consumer Reports' surveys over the last decade? [^1]: https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/mobile-news/are-iphones-more-secure-than-android-phones-4205231 https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/mobile-news/are-iphones-... [^2]: https://uk.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure https://uk.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-mo... [^3]: https://informationsecuritybuzz.com/ios-vs-android-the-more-secure-platform/#:~:text=Overall%2C%20the%20number%20and%20severity,compared%20to%20357%20for%20iOS https://informationsecuritybuzz.com/ios-vs-android-the-more-....

hospitalJail 3y ago
Clearly bad faith and incivility, calling a MBA marketing class high school level just because it doesn't fit your world view. You share links to random websites that fit your narrative. Its dangerous to listen to your opinion, you might get mureded like jamal khashoggi with a pegasus hack. Or maybe it will be mere nudes like Jeff Bezos. Has anyone gotten hacked with Pegasus on Android? I couldn't find any examples. Your identity is wrapped up in Apple products, its scary what they can do to a human brain.
- georgespencer 3y ago
  Isn't it funny that in your previous reply, you suggested that if you offered a rebuttal of my point around performance, I would try to move the goalposts: > Let me pull up single and multithreaded bench marks. "Oh not that measure". "Well it was among, top 36.6 percentile". And now you say: > You share links to random websites that fit your narrative. Its dangerous to listen to your opinion, If you can reject the mass of empirical data supporting the view that MacBook Air M1 offers unparalleled processor performance and battery life in its class and form factor, then I'm not really sure what to say. Good luck with the MBA which educated you sufficiently to suggest that Apple's marketing team might profile customers in retail stores based on age and gender. > Your identity is wrapped up in Apple products, its scary what they can do to a human brain. I'd say my identity is more wrapped up in helping the world to avoid making facile and conspiratorial statements about marketing strategies so hopelessly out of touch with reality that they can make someone apparently educated to a postgraduate level appear roughly as superficially informed as a high school student. (Sent from my IBM Thinkpad.)
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    >(Sent from my IBM Thinkpad.) Not even marketing can stop you/your corp from buying the best product huh? Anyway, check out some benchmark websites one day.
stocknoob 3y ago
Don’t bother trying to convince people who think Apple’s product success is some marketing ploy that no one else has figured out how to replicate. Their worldview is the products are a priori inferior, so some magical reason must explain their success beyond the theory that people (repeatedly) buy products they like. Blackberries and palm pilots were ready to take over the world in 2007, when Apple swooped in and hypnotized people to think a full screen, no-stylus touchscreen was a better design!

hospitalJail 3y ago

Clearly bad faith and incivility, calling a MBA marketing class high school level just because it doesn't fit your world view. You share links to random websites that fit your narrative. Its dangerous to listen to your opinion, you might get mureded like jamal khashoggi with a pegasus hack. Or maybe it will be mere nudes like Jeff Bezos. Has anyone gotten hacked with Pegasus on Android? I couldn't find any examples. Your identity is wrapped up in Apple products, its scary what they can do to a human brain.

georgespencer 3y ago
Isn't it funny that in your previous reply, you suggested that if you offered a rebuttal of my point around performance, I would try to move the goalposts: > Let me pull up single and multithreaded bench marks. "Oh not that measure". "Well it was among, top 36.6 percentile". And now you say: > You share links to random websites that fit your narrative. Its dangerous to listen to your opinion, If you can reject the mass of empirical data supporting the view that MacBook Air M1 offers unparalleled processor performance and battery life in its class and form factor, then I'm not really sure what to say. Good luck with the MBA which educated you sufficiently to suggest that Apple's marketing team might profile customers in retail stores based on age and gender. > Your identity is wrapped up in Apple products, its scary what they can do to a human brain. I'd say my identity is more wrapped up in helping the world to avoid making facile and conspiratorial statements about marketing strategies so hopelessly out of touch with reality that they can make someone apparently educated to a postgraduate level appear roughly as superficially informed as a high school student. (Sent from my IBM Thinkpad.)
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  >(Sent from my IBM Thinkpad.) Not even marketing can stop you/your corp from buying the best product huh? Anyway, check out some benchmark websites one day.

stocknoob 3y ago

Don’t bother trying to convince people who think Apple’s product success is some marketing ploy that no one else has figured out how to replicate. Their worldview is the products are a priori inferior, so some magical reason must explain their success beyond the theory that people (repeatedly) buy products they like. Blackberries and palm pilots were ready to take over the world in 2007, when Apple swooped in and hypnotized people to think a full screen, no-stylus touchscreen was a better design!