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SAT is even worse for ranking as a lot of parents can't afford or arrange for their kids to go to prep classes.

by mrits 3y ago

tharne 3y ago
Most schools now offer free prep classes, and every school library (and public library) has more study materials than you could ever need.
tekla 3y ago
Much SAT prep is free. The study materials are ubiquitous. The SAT is also incredibly easy. I got a 1200/1600 when I was in the 6th grade while going to a inner city school. I wasn't exactly doing SAT prep then.
slt2021 3y ago
high school and public libraries have ton of _absolutely_free_ materials for SAT prep, this is really lame excuse. it is not the lack of money that is holding the kids, it is lack of willpower to push yourself to top 10%/1%/0.1%. It is hard work and not every kid can do it, considering all the leisure alternatives they got Money==High SAT is silly meme that only lazy parents perpetuate. If money could give high SAT then there would be no need in Legacy Admissions in the first place! (Why need legacy backdoor, if you can hire tutor to get top 0.1% score?)
- tomtheelder 3y ago
  Implication here is that poor kids should need willpower, personal initiative, and self-discipline as teenagers, but that rich kids shouldn’t.
  - slt2021 3y ago
    also not true, rich kids also have willpower, discipline and initiative. Not every rich kid is like Don Trump Jr!!!! A lot of them are quite capable (esp the ones who make it to ivies)
fwungy 3y ago
You can't improve that much on the SAT. Anyone can buy the online test prep courses and study them. They aren't going to turn a knuckle dragger into a genius, they're just going to maximize an individual within their band and remove the penalties for lack of familiarity with the test context.
- tomtheelder 3y ago
  My prep classes in high school were worth about 200 pts. _Massive_ difference when applying to elite schools.
- mrits 3y ago
  Hard disagree.

SAT is even worse for ranking as a lot of parents can't afford or arrange for their kids to go to prep classes.

by mrits 3y ago

SAT is even worse for ranking as a lot of parents can't afford or arrange for their kids to go to prep classes.

Most schools now offer free prep classes, and every school library (and public library) has more study materials than you could ever need.

tekla 3y ago

Much SAT prep is free. The study materials are ubiquitous. The SAT is also incredibly easy. I got a 1200/1600 when I was in the 6th grade while going to a inner city school. I wasn't exactly doing SAT prep then.

slt2021 3y ago

high school and public libraries have ton of _absolutely_free_ materials for SAT prep, this is really lame excuse. it is not the lack of money that is holding the kids, it is lack of willpower to push yourself to top 10%/1%/0.1%. It is hard work and not every kid can do it, considering all the leisure alternatives they got Money==High SAT is silly meme that only lazy parents perpetuate. If money could give high SAT then there would be no need in Legacy Admissions in the first place! (Why need legacy backdoor, if you can hire tutor to get top 0.1% score?)

tomtheelder 3y ago
Implication here is that poor kids should need willpower, personal initiative, and self-discipline as teenagers, but that rich kids shouldn’t.
- slt2021 3y ago
  also not true, rich kids also have willpower, discipline and initiative. Not every rich kid is like Don Trump Jr!!!! A lot of them are quite capable (esp the ones who make it to ivies)

fwungy 3y ago

You can't improve that much on the SAT. Anyone can buy the online test prep courses and study them. They aren't going to turn a knuckle dragger into a genius, they're just going to maximize an individual within their band and remove the penalties for lack of familiarity with the test context.

tomtheelder 3y ago
My prep classes in high school were worth about 200 pts. _Massive_ difference when applying to elite schools.
mrits 3y ago
Hard disagree.