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Mozilla's Open Badge Project

43 points by benackles 15y ago

twiceaday 15y ago
The buttons look wrong on my Chrome 19.0.1055.1 dev-m. http://i.imgur.com/E5mZT.png http://i.imgur.com/E5mZT.png
- Ecio78 15y ago
  Same on 17.0.963.56 m
- icebraining 15y ago
  Your system probably lacks a font that can render the unicode symbol they use: ❯
  - dpritchett 15y ago
    Can't see it here either: Win7 / Chrome 17
- haydenchambers 15y ago
  or you have the same font installed locally
zengr 15y ago
Is this gamification of the web?
- idunno246 15y ago
  this is gamification of life
- benackles 15y ago
  This is an element of gamification. Gamification is the use of game thinking and game mechanics to solve problems and engage people. Within game mechanics there are six components. One component is achievement represented by badges.
  - alphadogg 15y ago
    What's the other five?
lambada 15y ago
The displayer technical docs give a 404 for me.
Aarvay 15y ago
Why is Mozilla bent upon standardizing everything?
- benackles 15y ago
  I believe out of a legitimate concern of a few companies taking ownership of the web. If there weren't standards who knows where we would be. Standardization is the reason we all don't live under rules of AOL and Internet Explorer. Now the power has shifted to three dominant players (Apple, Google and Facebook) potential controlling everything. Initiatives to standardize new technologies or trends continues to be important as the web evolves into new areas. Gamification has a lot of space for standardization. Mozilla is a great organization to spearhead new standard initiatives.
hengli 15y ago
"Threat Model The reason we're even presenting the user with a dialog is because we want to prevent badge spamming, whereby third-party issuers spam a user's backpack with badges that they don't want. Consequently, we need the backpack to ask for the user's consent. This will be accomplished via an iframe embedded in the issuer's page. The only sensitive information that a user needs to enter in this flow is login credentials. Since authentication is done via BrowserID, which opens in a pop-up window, the consequences of spoof attacks are minimal–so long as the user knows to look at domain names in their address bar and BrowserID's UI." I was really interested until I got to this part. Asking the user for permission each time I want to award a badge? Complete fail. Mozilla doesn't get UI.
- AndrewDucker 15y ago
  Allowing providers to spam me with badges - complete fail. I may well be interested in having you award me _a_ badge, but that doesn't mean I want you cluttering things up whenever you feel like it. Mozilla's policy is that the user has control over their data, and I fully support that.
  - hengli 15y ago
    This is going to be more of a pain in the ass than Vista's Security popup or whatever it's called. It'll be the #1 way to make users hate using your application, I assure you. Badges need to enhance the application not interrupt it. I have never seen a badge application pause the application to award you with the badge. The entire concept is pretty nuts. It's a good idea, such a shame about the implementation. Mozilla can easily provide an interface to delete badges you don't want, or ban applications that spam you from the badge system. The whole threat model idea is just self-sabotage.
    - alphadogg 15y ago
      You know what would make me hate it even more. Any Tom, Dick or Harry sending me frivolous badges, esp. spammy, advertsy ones. No thanks.
cobychapple 15y ago
What other providers out there are using this so far? Is there a list of issuers anywhere?
- benackles 15y ago
  That's a good question. I'm not sure if there's any list of issuers. However, it is an open project and therefore any entity could become an issuer. They list a few possible sources on the FAQ. I think many of the code education startups, such as Code School, Treehouse and Codecademy would be an excellent fit. [1] http://openbadges.org/en-US/faq.html http://openbadges.org/en-US/faq.html [2] http://codeschool.com http://codeschool.com [3] http://teamtreehouse.com http://teamtreehouse.com [4] http://codecademy.com http://codecademy.com
tbsdy 15y ago
I tried it out as it's an interesting concept. Unfortunately, while I can register and also participate in the introductory badges, whenever I try to push to my backpack then confirm who I am, it seems to get stuck on authenticating me forever :(
- drewjoh 15y ago
  This is happening for me as well on Firefox 10.0.2. I was able to get it to work with Chrome; though the user interface had a number of glitches and problems.

43 points by benackles 15y ago

twiceaday 15y ago

The buttons look wrong on my Chrome 19.0.1055.1 dev-m. http://i.imgur.com/E5mZT.png http://i.imgur.com/E5mZT.png

Ecio78 15y ago
Same on 17.0.963.56 m
icebraining 15y ago
Your system probably lacks a font that can render the unicode symbol they use: ❯
- dpritchett 15y ago
  Can't see it here either: Win7 / Chrome 17
haydenchambers 15y ago
or you have the same font installed locally

zengr 15y ago

Is this gamification of the web?

idunno246 15y ago
this is gamification of life
benackles 15y ago
This is an element of gamification. Gamification is the use of game thinking and game mechanics to solve problems and engage people. Within game mechanics there are six components. One component is achievement represented by badges.
- alphadogg 15y ago
  What's the other five?

lambada 15y ago

The displayer technical docs give a 404 for me.

Aarvay 15y ago

Why is Mozilla bent upon standardizing everything?

benackles 15y ago
I believe out of a legitimate concern of a few companies taking ownership of the web. If there weren't standards who knows where we would be. Standardization is the reason we all don't live under rules of AOL and Internet Explorer. Now the power has shifted to three dominant players (Apple, Google and Facebook) potential controlling everything. Initiatives to standardize new technologies or trends continues to be important as the web evolves into new areas. Gamification has a lot of space for standardization. Mozilla is a great organization to spearhead new standard initiatives.

hengli 15y ago

"Threat Model The reason we're even presenting the user with a dialog is because we want to prevent badge spamming, whereby third-party issuers spam a user's backpack with badges that they don't want. Consequently, we need the backpack to ask for the user's consent. This will be accomplished via an iframe embedded in the issuer's page. The only sensitive information that a user needs to enter in this flow is login credentials. Since authentication is done via BrowserID, which opens in a pop-up window, the consequences of spoof attacks are minimal–so long as the user knows to look at domain names in their address bar and BrowserID's UI." I was really interested until I got to this part. Asking the user for permission each time I want to award a badge? Complete fail. Mozilla doesn't get UI.

AndrewDucker 15y ago
Allowing providers to spam me with badges - complete fail. I may well be interested in having you award me _a_ badge, but that doesn't mean I want you cluttering things up whenever you feel like it. Mozilla's policy is that the user has control over their data, and I fully support that.
- hengli 15y ago
  This is going to be more of a pain in the ass than Vista's Security popup or whatever it's called. It'll be the #1 way to make users hate using your application, I assure you. Badges need to enhance the application not interrupt it. I have never seen a badge application pause the application to award you with the badge. The entire concept is pretty nuts. It's a good idea, such a shame about the implementation. Mozilla can easily provide an interface to delete badges you don't want, or ban applications that spam you from the badge system. The whole threat model idea is just self-sabotage.
  - alphadogg 15y ago
    You know what would make me hate it even more. Any Tom, Dick or Harry sending me frivolous badges, esp. spammy, advertsy ones. No thanks.

cobychapple 15y ago

What other providers out there are using this so far? Is there a list of issuers anywhere?

benackles 15y ago
That's a good question. I'm not sure if there's any list of issuers. However, it is an open project and therefore any entity could become an issuer. They list a few possible sources on the FAQ. I think many of the code education startups, such as Code School, Treehouse and Codecademy would be an excellent fit. [1] http://openbadges.org/en-US/faq.html http://openbadges.org/en-US/faq.html [2] http://codeschool.com http://codeschool.com [3] http://teamtreehouse.com http://teamtreehouse.com [4] http://codecademy.com http://codecademy.com

tbsdy 15y ago

I tried it out as it's an interesting concept. Unfortunately, while I can register and also participate in the introductory badges, whenever I try to push to my backpack then confirm who I am, it seems to get stuck on authenticating me forever :(

drewjoh 15y ago
This is happening for me as well on Firefox 10.0.2. I was able to get it to work with Chrome; though the user interface had a number of glitches and problems.