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I don't get why people have zeroed in on the Settings app. Outside of some very specific sections, it's fine. Meanwhile, the Home app can't be closed when view

I don't get why people have zeroed in on the Settings app. Outside of some very specific sections, it's fine. Meanwhile, the Home app can't be closed when viewing an accessory because they made it a modal, the Music app sometimes can't be searched because the search field looses focus on every keypress, and the AppStore may crash outright.

mk12 3y ago
The Settings app is inexcusably bad. On my M1 Pro MBP there is reliably 500-1000ms delay between clicking a section and waiting for it to appear.
- shilgapira 3y ago
  That was true in a significant number of preference pages in the old Settings.app as well. It's probably the same code paths under the hood of the new UI.
  - mk12 3y ago
    I don't doubt your experience but that doesn't match mine. Third-party preference panes were slow for me in the old app, but I never noticed any lag with the standard ones.
wpm 3y ago
Because I need the Settings app to work. I’m not choosing burger toppings, I’m often in there to troubleshoot. I can’t have an app that straight up lies to me about my network or refuses to respond to button presses I know it saw (WiFi “Details…” button won’t show anything if you’ve already pressed it and closed it that session, have to quit and relaunch). SwiftUIs text rendering also looks like ass, but that also could be the result of the choice of grey on grey the design B-team in charge of the redesign chose for text boxes. I do agree though that the Home app is far worse. It sucks on iOS and they just copy pasted it over, and that UI with a mouse cursor is just painful and ugly. Unredeemable software.
- wlesieutre 3y ago
  > SwiftUIs text rendering also looks like ass, but that also could be the result of the choice of grey on grey the design B-team in charge of the redesign chose for text boxes. Are you on a high DPI monitor? macOS stopped doing subpixel antialiasing a few versions ago. It’s not great for non-retina screens, but Apple seems to think everyone should have stopped using those by now.
robertoandred 3y ago
The Music app is just iTunes, not a new swift ui app

mk12 3y ago

The Settings app is inexcusably bad. On my M1 Pro MBP there is reliably 500-1000ms delay between clicking a section and waiting for it to appear.

shilgapira 3y ago
That was true in a significant number of preference pages in the old Settings.app as well. It's probably the same code paths under the hood of the new UI.
- mk12 3y ago
  I don't doubt your experience but that doesn't match mine. Third-party preference panes were slow for me in the old app, but I never noticed any lag with the standard ones.

wpm 3y ago

Because I need the Settings app to work. I’m not choosing burger toppings, I’m often in there to troubleshoot. I can’t have an app that straight up lies to me about my network or refuses to respond to button presses I know it saw (WiFi “Details…” button won’t show anything if you’ve already pressed it and closed it that session, have to quit and relaunch). SwiftUIs text rendering also looks like ass, but that also could be the result of the choice of grey on grey the design B-team in charge of the redesign chose for text boxes. I do agree though that the Home app is far worse. It sucks on iOS and they just copy pasted it over, and that UI with a mouse cursor is just painful and ugly. Unredeemable software.

wlesieutre 3y ago
> SwiftUIs text rendering also looks like ass, but that also could be the result of the choice of grey on grey the design B-team in charge of the redesign chose for text boxes. Are you on a high DPI monitor? macOS stopped doing subpixel antialiasing a few versions ago. It’s not great for non-retina screens, but Apple seems to think everyone should have stopped using those by now.

robertoandred 3y ago

The Music app is just iTunes, not a new swift ui app