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The companies that remove the human touch from hiring will rapidly wither and die, leaving the real talent for the rest of us who value people over process.

by 23B1 3y ago

rqtwteye 3y ago
" the rest of us who value people over process" This group will keep shrinking though.
donatj 3y ago
I hear about job applications and interviews these days and they sound so daunting. My first job as a developer in 2006 I sat with the lead developer, had a very comfortable chat about things I had built, things I was interested in both related to programming and otherwise. Conversation turned to math and algorithms a little bit. He stepped out and came back with an offer. Whole thing took maybe 45 minutes. I honestly feel as far as interviews have gone, it did the best of honestly sizing me up as a person.
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- dntrkv 3y ago
  The problem is that the modern tech interview process was created by large companies like Google. They needed an “unbiased”, scalable process to hire thousands of engineers with the main goal of reducing false-positives. Most companies don’t operate anywhere close to this scale and should not imitate this same hiring process.
  - cudgy 3y ago
    My inclination is that it is just a larger dumpster fire when performed by the larger companies. Poor tools don’t scale.
  - musicale 3y ago
    What they've essentially produced might be slightly better than randomly accepting 5% of the applicants that make it to the interview stage. Probably not much better though, and much less efficient.
sirspacey 3y ago
That touch was lost long ago for most of the “top of funnel” process
Forgeties79 3y ago
There are a ton of businesses that, sadly, will be able to survive without a human touch. Your CVS’s, Walmart’s, etc.
nine_k 3y ago
If Amazon used these techniques to hire its warehouse workers, it won't wither and die a bit. We software engineers are used to be in high demand and somehow short supply, even now when it's taking me more than two months to find a new position. In many other industries supply noticeably exceeds demand, and people would go to great lengths and jump through really silly hoops just to get hired.

The companies that remove the human touch from hiring will rapidly wither and die, leaving the real talent for the rest of us who value people over process.

by 23B1 3y ago

The companies that remove the human touch from hiring will rapidly wither and die, leaving the real talent for the rest of us who value people over process.

rqtwteye 3y ago

" the rest of us who value people over process" This group will keep shrinking though.

donatj 3y ago

I hear about job applications and interviews these days and they sound so daunting. My first job as a developer in 2006 I sat with the lead developer, had a very comfortable chat about things I had built, things I was interested in both related to programming and otherwise. Conversation turned to math and algorithms a little bit. He stepped out and came back with an offer. Whole thing took maybe 45 minutes. I honestly feel as far as interviews have gone, it did the best of honestly sizing me up as a person.

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dntrkv 3y ago
The problem is that the modern tech interview process was created by large companies like Google. They needed an “unbiased”, scalable process to hire thousands of engineers with the main goal of reducing false-positives. Most companies don’t operate anywhere close to this scale and should not imitate this same hiring process.
- cudgy 3y ago
  My inclination is that it is just a larger dumpster fire when performed by the larger companies. Poor tools don’t scale.
- musicale 3y ago
  What they've essentially produced might be slightly better than randomly accepting 5% of the applicants that make it to the interview stage. Probably not much better though, and much less efficient.

sirspacey 3y ago

That touch was lost long ago for most of the “top of funnel” process

Forgeties79 3y ago

There are a ton of businesses that, sadly, will be able to survive without a human touch. Your CVS’s, Walmart’s, etc.

nine_k 3y ago

If Amazon used these techniques to hire its warehouse workers, it won't wither and die a bit. We software engineers are used to be in high demand and somehow short supply, even now when it's taking me more than two months to find a new position. In many other industries supply noticeably exceeds demand, and people would go to great lengths and jump through really silly hoops just to get hired.