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Just don't apply ML as a solution? Even without the bias issues, if I were a hiring manager how do I verify that the weights "MagicHireAI SaaS Corp" are using
by scrps 3y ago
Just don't apply ML as a solution?
Even without the bias issues, if I were a hiring manager how do I verify that the weights "MagicHireAI SaaS Corp" are using aren't leaving swaths of talent on the table that I don't even know exist?
- coffeefirst 3y agoYes. All these solutions are snake oil. Resumes are BS—it’s the very definition of garbage in garbage out. I don’t need an AI to sort candidates, I need really fast organizing tools.
- jncfhnb 3y agoLooking at the outcomes and validating whether or not they make sense
- WirelessGigabit 3y agoMy wife recently went through multiple applications after a stint of no work permit. The amount of stuff they make you fill out that is then parsed with AI is insane. Indeed ruined a lot. Before if you had an ok resume but we're able to talk to them in person you might be able to convince them. Now with all those aptitude training you have to do well there. Not to mention the applications that require you to turn on your webcam (!) while you do them. Disgusting. That last one by the way was the same company where my wife had an in person interview. She drove there. The interview was on Zoom with somebody in another office. She declined the offer. Wastefulness and already showing that they're not against monitoring by AI means 0 humanity.
- geraldwhen 3y agoDriving plus zoom describes many corporate jobs I think. How many of us are required to drive to an office to take remote meetings? I imagine a lot. I know I have to.
- rovr138 3y agoI imagine not a lot. I know I don’t have to.
- Version467 3y ago> Not to mention the applications that require you to turn on your webcam (!) while you do them. I don't understand what this means. Did she have to turn on her webcam to upload her cv? How does that even make sense. Also, how is that legal? I thought requiring a photograph to apply for a position is illegal (except for stuff like acting).
- peterfirefly 3y agoThere is a lot of cheating going on... This is a way to avoid some of it.
- phatskat 3y agoThis doesn’t make sense - cheating on what?
- brasic 3y agoFrom OP: > Now with all those aptitude training [...] that require you to turn on your webcam They are referring to an automated personality or skills test to screen candidates. The webcam is to make sure the applicant is the one actually doing the test. These things are dehumanizing and snake-oil but there’s’s no question that applicant misrepresentation happens, including situations where the person interviewing is a ringer being paid by an agency or the applicant.
- phatskat 3y agoI guess I don’t understand how cheating on these things benefits the candidate. Like, you lie about any of that and get put in front of a panel, how’s that going to go?
- crooked-v 3y agoGenerally the people trying to fake their identity or skills in interviews are doing so with remote jobs, with the goal of bumbling along indefinitely once they no longer need to be on camera. The problem here is that companies have now gone from identity verification to this 'aptitude test' ML bullshit that's just another cover for increasingly weird arbitrary discrimination against applicants.
- tomrod 3y agoThose of us with authority to hire should reject these snake oil practices. What a waste of time to only get candidates who are okay sitting through these dehumanizing experiences. Don't pay for this cruft, sponsor local meetups instead.