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Do you share your iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, AirPods or Apple Watch with friends and family? It’s touted as a work machine first and foremost right? Do you sh

Do you share your iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, AirPods or Apple Watch with friends and family? It’s touted as a work machine first and foremost right? Do you share your work laptop with others? Apple exec logic I’m sure. I get what you’re saying and it’s hard to describe (and never really does it justice) the experience of this technology. It’s something you have to experience yourself to understand.

Forgeties79 3y ago
It shouldn’t have to be explained that dedicated video game hardware and personal mobile computers have very different use cases and sharing cultures around them. Do you share the use of your tv with friends and family?
kibwen 3y ago
Regardless of Apple's marketing, for the vast majority of people this will be a media consumption device first and a media creation device second, just like the iPad. And you absolutely share your media consumption devices (television, game consoles, iPads) with your family/housemates.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  And in a lot of families, parents will buy each child an iPad or a cheaper tablet. But there will be enough people who will by the headset for them to sell all they can make in the first year.
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chasing 3y ago
I share my PlayStation and AppleTV with friends and family. And, yeah, my kid regularly uses my iPad and family members definitely use one another’s phones on occasion. Also the Vision Pro is expensive enough that not every family member will get one — if there’s one in the house it sure would be cool if everyone could use it.
- stevenwoo 3y ago
  It sure sounds like anyone in a household can use it but if anyone has a different eyeglass corrective lens prescription (very likely unless everyone still has 20/20 vision) from the primary user it’s a very substandard experience.
  - upon_drumhead 3y ago
    They showed in the demo the switching lenses was easy as they are magnetic. Likely the upfront issues would be getting everyone their personalized lenses, but actually using seems like it would be easy.
    - throwuwu 3y ago
      They’d better sell a good storage solution for those lenses too otherwise they’re going to get lost or mixed up easily
      - Turing_Machine 3y ago
        Apple already does laser engraving for products bought in the online store. For the price point of this thing, they can probably move engraving into the retail stores (not long ago, I bought a laser engraver for my hobby 3D printer for a few hundred bucks -- they're not expensive, certainly not by Apple Store standards). As for getting lost, Apple already has their AirTag technology. While I don't know if that's already in these lenses, it doesn't seem like it'd be difficult to add.
    - chongli 3y ago
      Even if they’re magnetic and easy to swap, it sounds a LOT clunkier than just handing someone an iPad. People are going to lose the lenses all over the place. Heck, my dad loses his phone multiple times a week, necessitating a quick phone call to track it down. Are the lenses going to include built-in AirTags so people can locate them?
      - 3y ago
beebeepka 3y ago
Eh, you have a point. I am not exactly keen on sharing my Valve Index with people because hygiene is important to me. My wife can use it if she wants to. However, we're talking about a 3500 US dollar (without tax) device and a novelty. Of course people are going to share it if they can.
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usrusr 3y ago
The iPhone was basically sold by owners showing future owners the pinch zoom and making them try for themselves.
- ajmurmann 3y ago
  I'm in the camp that sees ipads and phones as personal, non-shared devices, but you are hitting the nail on the head here.
kyriakos 3y ago
Ipads are regularly shared in families and vision pro is more expensive than a top range tv which is shared in households. It's a hard sell if if can't be adapted to be used by multiple family members at its price point.
Shawnj2 3y ago
It’s pretty reasonable to share iPads and Macs between people, especially people who can’t afford individual devices for everyone separately. If I bought a VR headset for $3500 anyone being able to use it would be extremely useful
- scarface_74 3y ago
  What’s the overlap of people who can’t afford multiple $330 low end iPads and people willing to spend $3500 on a headset?
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    They do sell more expensive iPads. Not exactly unreasonable to want to share a $1000+ nice iPad Pro among a few people rather than buy multiple bottom tier devices.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      I’m not letting any kids borrow a $1000+ iPad Pro.
      - goosedragons 3y ago
        Who said kids?
WastingMyTime89 3y ago
Yes, it’s indeed very common to share iPad with kids and to have a laptop shared amongst family members. That’s why users exist and were such a hugely requested features of iPadOS (something Apple actually took ages to acknowledge because well, Apple).
fomine3 3y ago
Apple doesn't want to share even for iPad, as they don't implement multi user feature (except educational usage). I expect that it's same for Vision Pro, and it seems to natural for me. (I argue iPad should support multi user or guest)

Forgeties79 3y ago

It shouldn’t have to be explained that dedicated video game hardware and personal mobile computers have very different use cases and sharing cultures around them. Do you share the use of your tv with friends and family?

kibwen 3y ago

Regardless of Apple's marketing, for the vast majority of people this will be a media consumption device first and a media creation device second, just like the iPad. And you absolutely share your media consumption devices (television, game consoles, iPads) with your family/housemates.

scarface_74 3y ago
And in a lot of families, parents will buy each child an iPad or a cheaper tablet. But there will be enough people who will by the headset for them to sell all they can make in the first year.
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chasing 3y ago

I share my PlayStation and AppleTV with friends and family. And, yeah, my kid regularly uses my iPad and family members definitely use one another’s phones on occasion. Also the Vision Pro is expensive enough that not every family member will get one — if there’s one in the house it sure would be cool if everyone could use it.

stevenwoo 3y ago
It sure sounds like anyone in a household can use it but if anyone has a different eyeglass corrective lens prescription (very likely unless everyone still has 20/20 vision) from the primary user it’s a very substandard experience.
- upon_drumhead 3y ago
  They showed in the demo the switching lenses was easy as they are magnetic. Likely the upfront issues would be getting everyone their personalized lenses, but actually using seems like it would be easy.
  - throwuwu 3y ago
    They’d better sell a good storage solution for those lenses too otherwise they’re going to get lost or mixed up easily
    - Turing_Machine 3y ago
      Apple already does laser engraving for products bought in the online store. For the price point of this thing, they can probably move engraving into the retail stores (not long ago, I bought a laser engraver for my hobby 3D printer for a few hundred bucks -- they're not expensive, certainly not by Apple Store standards). As for getting lost, Apple already has their AirTag technology. While I don't know if that's already in these lenses, it doesn't seem like it'd be difficult to add.
  - chongli 3y ago
    Even if they’re magnetic and easy to swap, it sounds a LOT clunkier than just handing someone an iPad. People are going to lose the lenses all over the place. Heck, my dad loses his phone multiple times a week, necessitating a quick phone call to track it down. Are the lenses going to include built-in AirTags so people can locate them?
    - 3y ago

beebeepka 3y ago

Eh, you have a point. I am not exactly keen on sharing my Valve Index with people because hygiene is important to me. My wife can use it if she wants to. However, we're talking about a 3500 US dollar (without tax) device and a novelty. Of course people are going to share it if they can.

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usrusr 3y ago

The iPhone was basically sold by owners showing future owners the pinch zoom and making them try for themselves.

ajmurmann 3y ago
I'm in the camp that sees ipads and phones as personal, non-shared devices, but you are hitting the nail on the head here.

kyriakos 3y ago

Ipads are regularly shared in families and vision pro is more expensive than a top range tv which is shared in households. It's a hard sell if if can't be adapted to be used by multiple family members at its price point.

Shawnj2 3y ago

It’s pretty reasonable to share iPads and Macs between people, especially people who can’t afford individual devices for everyone separately. If I bought a VR headset for $3500 anyone being able to use it would be extremely useful

scarface_74 3y ago
What’s the overlap of people who can’t afford multiple $330 low end iPads and people willing to spend $3500 on a headset?
- goosedragons 3y ago
  They do sell more expensive iPads. Not exactly unreasonable to want to share a $1000+ nice iPad Pro among a few people rather than buy multiple bottom tier devices.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    I’m not letting any kids borrow a $1000+ iPad Pro.
    - goosedragons 3y ago
      Who said kids?

WastingMyTime89 3y ago

Yes, it’s indeed very common to share iPad with kids and to have a laptop shared amongst family members. That’s why users exist and were such a hugely requested features of iPadOS (something Apple actually took ages to acknowledge because well, Apple).

fomine3 3y ago

Apple doesn't want to share even for iPad, as they don't implement multi user feature (except educational usage). I expect that it's same for Vision Pro, and it seems to natural for me. (I argue iPad should support multi user or guest)