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> Too many hardware bugs with the FP3 that were never acknowledged by the vendor I have a FP3, and it has been my first and only Android smartphone. I now won

by cauch 3y ago

> Too many hardware bugs with the FP3 that were never acknowledged by the vendor I have a FP3, and it has been my first and only Android smartphone. I now wonder if what I've experienced is the "normal Android experience" or if I would have experienced something different from another brand. I'm also avoiding / disabling Google stuffs (I'm using f-droid, ...). I was occasionally surprised to see how a lot of people are flooded with ads / unsolicited messages and seemed not to care. I don't get it, though, it looks such an awful experience. The main thing I've noticed is the long time it sometimes take for the picture-taking app to get on focus. But I thought it was due to the standard Android software. Is there a place to list the FP3 bugs?

verall 3y ago
The camera focus problem is not a an android problem it's just a fairphone problem. OEMs typically write their own camera apps.
miduil 3y ago
* Easily damaged by moisture (even though they've claimed certain IP ratings), due to the printed conductor inside the plastic layers with pin connectors * Battery swelling after less than two years of operation (no way to source this battery locally since they've built a custom connector / redesigned an standard OEM battery) * Overheating * Touch screen glitches (they've resolved that after a year via software, support was super unhelpful with that problem) * Wi-Fi 5 GHz broken/unreliable for many people * Camera focus (not sure if FP3+ improved on that front) * Broken fingerprint sensor (from the beginning, most common issue) and by broken I mean not functional at all * self-disintegrating plastic parts (back and side covers), likely due to the fact they are using recycled plastic - they've changed the plastic chemistry with FP3+, for me the plastic became more and more brittle - In addition for me with software: * charging LED can't be disabled, which is extremely bright when you're sleeping - community members shrugging this off with "you shouldn't use your phone in your bedroom anyway" * screen brightness too bright / unreliable brightness sensor readings (they had several updates because it was so hard to tweak for them) On the positive end: Phone is quite durable, fell down on many occasions and because of it's plastic/design openness the battery falls out but screen never broke in bunch of occasions. Edit: Formatting
- justtocomment 3y ago
  I see a lot of people mentioning Fairphones not being on par with phones by multi billion dollar companies. This citicism is valid. But I think it leaves out a lot of the overall picture. I have a Fairphone 3, and so far it survived being dropped into the bathtub (being submerged for a sec), being dropped on hard floors several times and being stepped on (screen got cracked, but it still works). Like with the Fairphone 2 I had before that, I'm able to do repairs (part replacements) on my own with minimal effort. It gets support for years. I have it running /e/ OS (terrible name) without Google Services and while that's not Graphene OS, I vastly prefer it to Google Android. For me having minor frustrations with Wi-Fi is well worth having a less-unfree and more-ethical phone.
- progval 3y ago
  I bought a FP3+ a year ago and run it with LineageOS (with microG). I don't have any of the issues you list except for LED and brightness. However I do have random troubles with location, but that's probably due to being de-googled. Regarding WiFi, did you try disabling the "battery optimizer"?
opan 3y ago
>I'm also avoiding / disabling Google stuffs (I'm using f-droid, ...). I was occasionally surprised to see how a lot of people are flooded with ads / unsolicited messages and seemed not to care. I don't get it, though, it looks such an awful experience. I run into this with family members occasionally. Their music player or file manager has started showing ads, I recommend them the one I use on F-Droid, saying it may or may not be on the Play Store. Usually they go straight to the Play Store anyway and ask if any of their top ten results have the right icon/author. I really do get a better experience with F-Droid stuff. Never have run into ads or malware or whatever, can't imagine people thinking that it's normal to have such a bad experience. I don't know how they live with it.

by cauch 3y ago

verall 3y ago

The camera focus problem is not a an android problem it's just a fairphone problem. OEMs typically write their own camera apps.

miduil 3y ago

* Easily damaged by moisture (even though they've claimed certain IP ratings), due to the printed conductor inside the plastic layers with pin connectors * Battery swelling after less than two years of operation (no way to source this battery locally since they've built a custom connector / redesigned an standard OEM battery) * Overheating * Touch screen glitches (they've resolved that after a year via software, support was super unhelpful with that problem) * Wi-Fi 5 GHz broken/unreliable for many people * Camera focus (not sure if FP3+ improved on that front) * Broken fingerprint sensor (from the beginning, most common issue) and by broken I mean not functional at all * self-disintegrating plastic parts (back and side covers), likely due to the fact they are using recycled plastic - they've changed the plastic chemistry with FP3+, for me the plastic became more and more brittle - In addition for me with software: * charging LED can't be disabled, which is extremely bright when you're sleeping - community members shrugging this off with "you shouldn't use your phone in your bedroom anyway" * screen brightness too bright / unreliable brightness sensor readings (they had several updates because it was so hard to tweak for them) On the positive end: Phone is quite durable, fell down on many occasions and because of it's plastic/design openness the battery falls out but screen never broke in bunch of occasions. Edit: Formatting

justtocomment 3y ago
I see a lot of people mentioning Fairphones not being on par with phones by multi billion dollar companies. This citicism is valid. But I think it leaves out a lot of the overall picture. I have a Fairphone 3, and so far it survived being dropped into the bathtub (being submerged for a sec), being dropped on hard floors several times and being stepped on (screen got cracked, but it still works). Like with the Fairphone 2 I had before that, I'm able to do repairs (part replacements) on my own with minimal effort. It gets support for years. I have it running /e/ OS (terrible name) without Google Services and while that's not Graphene OS, I vastly prefer it to Google Android. For me having minor frustrations with Wi-Fi is well worth having a less-unfree and more-ethical phone.
progval 3y ago
I bought a FP3+ a year ago and run it with LineageOS (with microG). I don't have any of the issues you list except for LED and brightness. However I do have random troubles with location, but that's probably due to being de-googled. Regarding WiFi, did you try disabling the "battery optimizer"?

opan 3y ago

>I'm also avoiding / disabling Google stuffs (I'm using f-droid, ...). I was occasionally surprised to see how a lot of people are flooded with ads / unsolicited messages and seemed not to care. I don't get it, though, it looks such an awful experience. I run into this with family members occasionally. Their music player or file manager has started showing ads, I recommend them the one I use on F-Droid, saying it may or may not be on the Play Store. Usually they go straight to the Play Store anyway and ask if any of their top ten results have the right icon/author. I really do get a better experience with F-Droid stuff. Never have run into ads or malware or whatever, can't imagine people thinking that it's normal to have such a bad experience. I don't know how they live with it.