> this post is specifically about pascal - my comment about {} vs begin...end was intended for that context That link was Pascal. It was just one of many diale

> this post is specifically about pascal - my comment about {} vs begin...end was intended for that context That link was Pascal. It was just one of many dialects of Pascal. > pascal has no way of defining variables within a local scope I just did a quick search and turns out Pascal does support nesting variable scopes too. > it was added to delphi as a kludge much later Is it a kludge though? Or are you just calling it that because it disproves your point? The syntax is pretty similar to a lot of C-like languages. So you’d be calling their variable declarations a kludge too. It feels like you’re being overly dismissive. > i admit i should have said something like "... {} in C and C++". it certainly would have helped your case to have opened with a little more context rather than assuming other people don’t understand how scoping works ;) But even that aside, Pascal does support scoping inside compound statements. Begin End and {} are just tokens to denote the start and end of a compound statement. Just like how Python uses indentation to group compounds. Everything else you put is missing the point about how language grammar is parsed.