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As someone who watches a few shoes per year, I haven’t heard of any of these. Wikipedia says bubblegum crisis is an 8 episode one off from over 30 years ago. I’

As someone who watches a few shoes per year, I haven’t heard of any of these. Wikipedia says bubblegum crisis is an 8 episode one off from over 30 years ago. I’m amused at your definition of obscure.

throwaway6734 3y ago
Macross isn't an obscure show for those interested in Mecha shows like Gundam
- erik_seaberg 3y ago
  They dubbed and spliced Macross with two other series to get enough episodes to syndicate as “Robotech,” which made it to a local TV station after school.
  - astrange 3y ago
    And the company who made Robotech has been legally blocking actual Macross ever since. It hasn't come out in any other form because they have the exclusive license and refuse to let anyone else touch it. …But that changed last year, so it may now appear somewhere, somehow.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  I’m sure you’re not wrong And yet https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/
mcpackieh 3y ago
Search for some "Top N anime" lists and you'll very frequently run into the names I mentioned. For instance: https://myanimelist.net/featured/1408/Top_10_Best_Cyberpunk_Anime_of_All_Time https://myanimelist.net/featured/1408/Top_10_Best_Cyberpunk_... Some more prominent examples they don't have: Ghost in the Shell (except for Arise, which TBQH is slop), Serial Experiments Lain, even Neon Genesis Evangelion (tbf, I think Netflix has it?). Here's a nice little taste of Bubblegum Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4
- wahahah 3y ago
  Funimation has some more, only Lain and GiTS 2 from your list though. Tangentially, some cool anime got aired on this local PBS station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUfoDH_1w0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUfoDH_1w0
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  Serial Experiments Lain is by far my favorite anime of all time, and was prophetic about how the internet would evolve over time. It is required watching for all HN users.
tsuujin 3y ago
If you were a teenager in the 90’s and had the faintest idea of what anime was you knew about bubblegum crisis. It was about as mainstream as mainstream gets. You could buy posters for it in like every video store in the mall. It’s old but it’s one of those foundation pieces that really bridged the gap into western markets.
- Animats 3y ago
  "Bubblegum Crisis" is something not seen before or since, an anime formatted as a series of music videos.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4
  - tsuujin 3y ago
    Just made me realize how much I miss those 90’s anime soundtracks.
defrost 3y ago
You've provided an excellent example of the difference between those trapped in content bubbles and fans of a genre. Having seen a lot of shoes on the shoe rack is quite distinct from being aware of the major influences in the footwear market.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  Perhaps. Still feels obscure though by conventional definitions of the word. I just don’t really expect something like crunchy roll to be carrying titles that are over 30 years old and I think it’s kind of silly to expect them to do otherwise. Not that I really use crunchy roll. I perceive a different vibe of crunchyroll cataloging stuff like that vs Netflix offering things like neon genesis, cowboy bebop, and other impactful old titles. Idk if I can justify that belief. Perhaps it’s just that Netflix’s anime catalog is small and honestly pretty well curated cache for people that probably aren’t anime watchers. I kind of expect crunchyroll to be a service that focuses only on the latest stuff with ads and merch for big anime fans.
  - defrost 3y ago
    It does rather come down to expectations, doesn't it. I (and this is just me) expect my local library to carry 125 year old stage plays such as The Importance of Being Earnest .. and it does. I expect an online libray of AV media to carry copies of material that was influential and popular when I was 30 .. (such as the anime series under discussion). If Crunchyroll is just service that focuses upon trending bleeding edge viral latest fad material then so be it. That by no means makes the plays of Oscar Wilde nor the popular culture of our youth obscure .. it just means that those that don't look outside a particular bubble won't see a bigger landscape.
- naniwaduni 3y ago
  Which do you expect your local shoe store to sell?
  - defrost 3y ago
    As a serious answer there is no local shoe store here, nor a clothes store either - there are a couple of local saddle makers and general leather workers that can repair shoes and a few makers of high quality socks. If I travel to the next town, they have a couple of bland shoe shops that sell generic shoes, a few outfitters that have various work boots. There's a capital city 100 km away that has almost every type of shoe you might want, sold across a multitude of stores, with the exception of exclusive high end brands that might require travelling to London, Milan, Paris, etc to source in person .. perhaps they deign to mail such goods now (that seems unlikely).

throwaway6734 3y ago

Macross isn't an obscure show for those interested in Mecha shows like Gundam

erik_seaberg 3y ago
They dubbed and spliced Macross with two other series to get enough episodes to syndicate as “Robotech,” which made it to a local TV station after school.
- astrange 3y ago
  And the company who made Robotech has been legally blocking actual Macross ever since. It hasn't come out in any other form because they have the exclusive license and refuse to let anyone else touch it. …But that changed last year, so it may now appear somewhere, somehow.
jncfhnb 3y ago
I’m sure you’re not wrong And yet https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/

mcpackieh 3y ago

Search for some "Top N anime" lists and you'll very frequently run into the names I mentioned. For instance: https://myanimelist.net/featured/1408/Top_10_Best_Cyberpunk_Anime_of_All_Time https://myanimelist.net/featured/1408/Top_10_Best_Cyberpunk_... Some more prominent examples they don't have: Ghost in the Shell (except for Arise, which TBQH is slop), Serial Experiments Lain, even Neon Genesis Evangelion (tbf, I think Netflix has it?). Here's a nice little taste of Bubblegum Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4

wahahah 3y ago
Funimation has some more, only Lain and GiTS 2 from your list though. Tangentially, some cool anime got aired on this local PBS station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUfoDH_1w0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUfoDH_1w0
Der_Einzige 3y ago
Serial Experiments Lain is by far my favorite anime of all time, and was prophetic about how the internet would evolve over time. It is required watching for all HN users.

tsuujin 3y ago

If you were a teenager in the 90’s and had the faintest idea of what anime was you knew about bubblegum crisis. It was about as mainstream as mainstream gets. You could buy posters for it in like every video store in the mall. It’s old but it’s one of those foundation pieces that really bridged the gap into western markets.

Animats 3y ago
"Bubblegum Crisis" is something not seen before or since, an anime formatted as a series of music videos.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4
- tsuujin 3y ago
  Just made me realize how much I miss those 90’s anime soundtracks.

defrost 3y ago

You've provided an excellent example of the difference between those trapped in content bubbles and fans of a genre. Having seen a lot of shoes on the shoe rack is quite distinct from being aware of the major influences in the footwear market.

jncfhnb 3y ago
Perhaps. Still feels obscure though by conventional definitions of the word. I just don’t really expect something like crunchy roll to be carrying titles that are over 30 years old and I think it’s kind of silly to expect them to do otherwise. Not that I really use crunchy roll. I perceive a different vibe of crunchyroll cataloging stuff like that vs Netflix offering things like neon genesis, cowboy bebop, and other impactful old titles. Idk if I can justify that belief. Perhaps it’s just that Netflix’s anime catalog is small and honestly pretty well curated cache for people that probably aren’t anime watchers. I kind of expect crunchyroll to be a service that focuses only on the latest stuff with ads and merch for big anime fans.
- defrost 3y ago
  It does rather come down to expectations, doesn't it. I (and this is just me) expect my local library to carry 125 year old stage plays such as The Importance of Being Earnest .. and it does. I expect an online libray of AV media to carry copies of material that was influential and popular when I was 30 .. (such as the anime series under discussion). If Crunchyroll is just service that focuses upon trending bleeding edge viral latest fad material then so be it. That by no means makes the plays of Oscar Wilde nor the popular culture of our youth obscure .. it just means that those that don't look outside a particular bubble won't see a bigger landscape.
naniwaduni 3y ago
Which do you expect your local shoe store to sell?
- defrost 3y ago
  As a serious answer there is no local shoe store here, nor a clothes store either - there are a couple of local saddle makers and general leather workers that can repair shoes and a few makers of high quality socks. If I travel to the next town, they have a couple of bland shoe shops that sell generic shoes, a few outfitters that have various work boots. There's a capital city 100 km away that has almost every type of shoe you might want, sold across a multitude of stores, with the exception of exclusive high end brands that might require travelling to London, Milan, Paris, etc to source in person .. perhaps they deign to mail such goods now (that seems unlikely).