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I've made that transfer. It sucks but it's still a relevant option, especially for people who live next to a CalTrain station. A CalTrain that goes downtown wou

I've made that transfer. It sucks but it's still a relevant option, especially for people who live next to a CalTrain station. A CalTrain that goes downtown would likely get them to make it easier for airport passengers to get to Millbrae. Because of that a CalTrain that goes downtown would be worth a lot, but still a tiny fraction of the proposed budget. I hope it doesn't happen if it's going to cost that much. The conference attendees when at the airport have their luggage. The airport hotel is a more realistic scenario. Or a CalTrain accessible hotel. And some of the airport hotels have good access both to CalTrain and the airport. I think more would if this extension were made.

inferiorhuman 3y ago
people who live next to a CalTrain station Right. Nobody's taking Caltrain from the airport to a conference at Moscone. Or a CalTrain accessible hotel How many area hotels offer shuttles to SFO? How many offer shuttles to Caltrain? Airport shuttles will stop at the international terminal which is where the BART station is. Shuttles to Millbrae (Caltrain) don't exist ergo nobody's taking Caltrain to Moscone. Even if there were shuttles to Caltrain, it's a much shorter walk from Powell at 4th and Market (or the Moscone station at 4th and Folsom) than 4th and King or the transbay terminal.
- benatkin 3y ago
  You said nobody in your original reply to me and reiterated it in your other two replies. Are you sure that the vast majority of the conference attendees from other states fit the same profile of staying in a hotel downtown? Maybe they are but I would like to see some data.
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    I said nobody is going to take Caltrain from the airport to Moscone. In fact I looked at three hotels near SFO and they all offer shuttles to SFO but not to Millbrae. Who's talking about downtown? I have no idea what you're on about.
    - benatkin 3y ago
      That's because they're right at the airport. Look at the hotels with airport in their name that are within a few miles of the airport. A lot of them are closer to a CalTrain station then the airport.
      - inferiorhuman 3y ago
        https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/sfosoes-embassy-suites-san-francisco-airport/hotel-info/ https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/sfosoes-embassy-suites-san-... Please note that we offer a fee-based shuttle to San Francisco International Airport SFO, from 5AM-10AM and 5PM-10PM. Please reserve the shuttle using the link below. That's closer to south city Caltrain than the airport, and yet… nobody is taking Caltrain to Moscone. Judging by that neighborhood nobody's walking to Caltrain either. Caltrain to Moscone isn't a thing.
        benatkin 3y ago
        Yes and hopefully it won't be a thing (just something that happens enough that it's not nobody - I would walk from some of these hotels south of the airport to the Caltrain station, and take Central Subway or walk to Moscone when I arrive at 4th and King). But the extension to downtown is attempting to make it a thing. They're hoping that people who take it downtown will take it to go anywhere that they consider downtown accessible. Part of the plan is an underground passage to the Embarcadero BART station. I think the planned budget is ridiculous but I think it would be used at least enough for it to be considered a thing.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

people who live next to a CalTrain station Right. Nobody's taking Caltrain from the airport to a conference at Moscone. Or a CalTrain accessible hotel How many area hotels offer shuttles to SFO? How many offer shuttles to Caltrain? Airport shuttles will stop at the international terminal which is where the BART station is. Shuttles to Millbrae (Caltrain) don't exist ergo nobody's taking Caltrain to Moscone. Even if there were shuttles to Caltrain, it's a much shorter walk from Powell at 4th and Market (or the Moscone station at 4th and Folsom) than 4th and King or the transbay terminal.

benatkin 3y ago
You said nobody in your original reply to me and reiterated it in your other two replies. Are you sure that the vast majority of the conference attendees from other states fit the same profile of staying in a hotel downtown? Maybe they are but I would like to see some data.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  I said nobody is going to take Caltrain from the airport to Moscone. In fact I looked at three hotels near SFO and they all offer shuttles to SFO but not to Millbrae. Who's talking about downtown? I have no idea what you're on about.
  - benatkin 3y ago
    That's because they're right at the airport. Look at the hotels with airport in their name that are within a few miles of the airport. A lot of them are closer to a CalTrain station then the airport.
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/sfosoes-embassy-suites-san-francisco-airport/hotel-info/ https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/sfosoes-embassy-suites-san-... Please note that we offer a fee-based shuttle to San Francisco International Airport SFO, from 5AM-10AM and 5PM-10PM. Please reserve the shuttle using the link below. That's closer to south city Caltrain than the airport, and yet… nobody is taking Caltrain to Moscone. Judging by that neighborhood nobody's walking to Caltrain either. Caltrain to Moscone isn't a thing.
      - benatkin 3y ago
        Yes and hopefully it won't be a thing (just something that happens enough that it's not nobody - I would walk from some of these hotels south of the airport to the Caltrain station, and take Central Subway or walk to Moscone when I arrive at 4th and King). But the extension to downtown is attempting to make it a thing. They're hoping that people who take it downtown will take it to go anywhere that they consider downtown accessible. Part of the plan is an underground passage to the Embarcadero BART station. I think the planned budget is ridiculous but I think it would be used at least enough for it to be considered a thing.