Agreed. And actually, realized I screwed up what I was trying to communicate in my last comment. What I was trying to say is that Java and C# are at their core

Agreed. And actually, realized I screwed up what I was trying to communicate in my last comment. What I was trying to say is that Java and C# are at their core basically the same language, and no one is calling C# bloated and syntax heavy. Yeah, actually, I like Java (it gives application devs just the right amount of control) and think to save it, needs to purge itself of Spring.