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Just want to say how lame that is. What's the point of even living then? Why not think about how we can enjoy life sustainability and pragmatically instead of d

Just want to say how lame that is. What's the point of even living then? Why not think about how we can enjoy life sustainability and pragmatically instead of doing without for essentially religious reasons. This doesn't mean pretending to be happy while not doing stuff, it means finding ways to do what we want in such a way that our kids can do it to. Otherwise we might as well strip mine everything now and then shut down into the kind of lifestyle zealots are proposing. Some kind of pious self denial is as old as society I guess, but it doesn't help anything. What kind of a defeatist society do we have that people advocate giving up?

hospitalJail 3y ago
That is far more extreme than I was implying. Why not play the million video games that already have been released? Why not read the million books that have been released? Watch the TV shows and movies that have already been released? When you are done consuming all of them, you will be dead multiple times over.
- d1str0 3y ago
  All these examples of “living” involve being in a single location while being completely sedentary, something I would say most people would get very tired of quickly.
  - hunter-gatherer 3y ago
    Everyone here seems to miss the point. The point is that a large population of the world (and likely almost everyone on this forum) live an over hedonistic/decadent lifestyle that overconsumes and contributes to environment destruction. The fact that most people can't seem to grasp that astounds me. This being a more politically liberal crowd whike being generally more wealthy crowd and consumerist is also striking. It seems like every day there is a new post about the climate change and the comments are quick to point fingers towards the fossil fuel conglomerate yet nobody ever confesses their excessive consumption that fuels thise conglomerates. Everyone here is too busy trying to sell their software that doesn't really do anything positive for world. To your point directly, it is totally possible to "live" in a single location. Nobody said anything about being sedentary. There are many ways to make oneself useful every day. But if you live in New Mexico, maybe fresh salmon from the grocery store isn't an option society needs. These things are nice, not necessary, and it wasn't that long ago that we all got along fine without all the options required to feed every hedonistic impulse we have. On mobile. Writing is probably fucked up. Sue me.
- tough 3y ago
  Why should you take away my chance to -create- any of those too tho? To save the planet? Meh
  - jwestbury 3y ago
    There are plenty of things we don't let people create because of their harm or risk of harm. You're not allowed to create a nuclear or chemical weapon, for instance. And, no matter how much your artistic soul desires it, you're probably not allowed to create a snuff film.
- sigstoat 3y ago
  why read new books, we have plenty of old ones. those authors could be slaving away for the planet
FreshStart 3y ago
8 billions living a western lifestyle was always going to be a catastrophe and those praying to st. Technology to bail them out for that catastrophe, are hardend anti social creatures future generations have every right to attack.

hospitalJail 3y ago

That is far more extreme than I was implying. Why not play the million video games that already have been released? Why not read the million books that have been released? Watch the TV shows and movies that have already been released? When you are done consuming all of them, you will be dead multiple times over.

d1str0 3y ago
All these examples of “living” involve being in a single location while being completely sedentary, something I would say most people would get very tired of quickly.
- hunter-gatherer 3y ago
  Everyone here seems to miss the point. The point is that a large population of the world (and likely almost everyone on this forum) live an over hedonistic/decadent lifestyle that overconsumes and contributes to environment destruction. The fact that most people can't seem to grasp that astounds me. This being a more politically liberal crowd whike being generally more wealthy crowd and consumerist is also striking. It seems like every day there is a new post about the climate change and the comments are quick to point fingers towards the fossil fuel conglomerate yet nobody ever confesses their excessive consumption that fuels thise conglomerates. Everyone here is too busy trying to sell their software that doesn't really do anything positive for world. To your point directly, it is totally possible to "live" in a single location. Nobody said anything about being sedentary. There are many ways to make oneself useful every day. But if you live in New Mexico, maybe fresh salmon from the grocery store isn't an option society needs. These things are nice, not necessary, and it wasn't that long ago that we all got along fine without all the options required to feed every hedonistic impulse we have. On mobile. Writing is probably fucked up. Sue me.
tough 3y ago
Why should you take away my chance to -create- any of those too tho? To save the planet? Meh
- jwestbury 3y ago
  There are plenty of things we don't let people create because of their harm or risk of harm. You're not allowed to create a nuclear or chemical weapon, for instance. And, no matter how much your artistic soul desires it, you're probably not allowed to create a snuff film.
sigstoat 3y ago
why read new books, we have plenty of old ones. those authors could be slaving away for the planet

FreshStart 3y ago

8 billions living a western lifestyle was always going to be a catastrophe and those praying to st. Technology to bail them out for that catastrophe, are hardend anti social creatures future generations have every right to attack.