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> So which app does Apple reject that cuts into “their market”? Netflix's "you can't sign up through the app" is a prime example of this that immediately comes

> So which app does Apple reject that cuts into “their market”? Netflix's "you can't sign up through the app" is a prime example of this that immediately comes to mind but there are many more. An argument can be made that hey.com is, in a way, competitor to the paid iCloud subscription. Yet Apple acts as if they own that relationship and that the app store was valuable in bringing the users to the app: https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/ https://www.hey.com/apple/iap/ Do you really think it's fair that all competing services have to be 30% more expensive than Apple's own ones if they play by Apple's rules? There used to be lots of iOS apps that allowed streaming pirated music. Everyone, including Apple, was seemingly fine with that and never asked where the music came from. But then, suddenly, when Apple Music was preparing to launch, all those apps started magically getting rejected for breaking the rule on "illegal file sharing". > When I pay for an app, Stop right here. No one was talking about paid apps. My initial point was about free apps. But if you so insist, in a FREE market, app developers would offer two options: pay through Apple with their 30% tax, or pay directly without it. I'll let you figure out which option most people would choose.

wruza 3y ago
in a FREE market, app developers would offer two options: pay through Apple with their 30% tax, or pay directly without it In reality they will make scummest apps possible and ignore the AppStore completely. Only very big players and those whose primary target is AppStore anyway will offer two options.
scarface_74 3y ago
> Netflix's "you can't sign up through the app" is a prime example of this that immediately comes to mind but there are many more. He said the app was “rejected” as in not allowed in the store. > Do you really think it's fair that all competing services have to be 30% more expensive than Apple's own ones if they play by Apple's rules? Well seeing that neither Netflix, Hey or Spotify allow in app purchases and don’t pay Apple 30%… > There used to be lots of iOS apps that allowed streaming pirated music. Everyone, including Apple, was seemingly fine with that and never asked where the music came from When has Apple ever allowed apps that focused on pirated music? And Apple has been selling music on the iPhone since the day it was introduced - well to be pedantic, three months after it went in sale. > But if you so insist, in a FREE market, app developers would offer two options: pay through Apple with their 30% tax, or pay directly without it. And there is nothing stopping you from doing that. In fact, Spotify did that for awhile.

wruza 3y ago

in a FREE market, app developers would offer two options: pay through Apple with their 30% tax, or pay directly without it In reality they will make scummest apps possible and ignore the AppStore completely. Only very big players and those whose primary target is AppStore anyway will offer two options.

scarface_74 3y ago

> Netflix's "you can't sign up through the app" is a prime example of this that immediately comes to mind but there are many more. He said the app was “rejected” as in not allowed in the store. > Do you really think it's fair that all competing services have to be 30% more expensive than Apple's own ones if they play by Apple's rules? Well seeing that neither Netflix, Hey or Spotify allow in app purchases and don’t pay Apple 30%… > There used to be lots of iOS apps that allowed streaming pirated music. Everyone, including Apple, was seemingly fine with that and never asked where the music came from When has Apple ever allowed apps that focused on pirated music? And Apple has been selling music on the iPhone since the day it was introduced - well to be pedantic, three months after it went in sale. > But if you so insist, in a FREE market, app developers would offer two options: pay through Apple with their 30% tax, or pay directly without it. And there is nothing stopping you from doing that. In fact, Spotify did that for awhile.