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> This fallacy is called appeal to authority I think of it as an appeal to consensus but if you want to dismiss an argument based on some debate bro tactics th

> This fallacy is called appeal to authority I think of it as an appeal to consensus but if you want to dismiss an argument based on some debate bro tactics then at least be more substantive than naming some so-called fallacy and leaving it at that. The organizations that have the data and that are using that data to sell advertising to the largest number of buyers are doing a particular thing. Traditional media, as I point out, is doing a softer form of targeting as well. So who is right, the person who flashes their MSc in Psychology as if that grants them authority? Or do we instead look at the overwhelming evidence based on the behavior of the entire industry?

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
The Global Homeopathic Medicine Market size was estimated at USD 25.85 billion in 2022, USD 30.95 billion in 2023, and is projected to grow at a Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of 19.89% to reach USD 110.41 billion by 2030. We have absolute proof that homeopathy is grift. But by your logic, You ask people engaging in grift whether they have consensus
- zoogeny 3y ago
  The argument against homeopathy (if there is one, I admit I have no interest in the subject and have no direct knowledge) is that there is significant contradictory evidence that shows there is no correlation between the treatment and the outcomes. It isn't: "I thought about it and don't see why it should work so I think it mustn't" I would love, just once, for yet another commentator on the advertising practices of Google, Amazon, Facebook, et al to provide a shred of evidence for their baseless conjectures. But of course, there is no evidence. There is, in fact, no correlation based in fact or reality between homeopathy and the advertising practice of said companies. Just an attempt to use rhetoric to smear them based on personal agendas. You can hate the companies and their practices. You can hate advertising in general. But I see no reason to doubt the effectiveness of the techniques on rational principles alone. I have no doubt that there is a clear signal in their data that shows their practices achieve outcomes aligned with the needs and desires of their customers: the advertisers. You don't understand why because you lack of access to the data and are therefore unable to independently see that signal with your own eyes. To conclude that the companies are stupid or deceitful based on your own lack of independent confirmation is a kind of hubris that is outstanding.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago

The Global Homeopathic Medicine Market size was estimated at USD 25.85 billion in 2022, USD 30.95 billion in 2023, and is projected to grow at a Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of 19.89% to reach USD 110.41 billion by 2030. We have absolute proof that homeopathy is grift. But by your logic, You ask people engaging in grift whether they have consensus

zoogeny 3y ago
The argument against homeopathy (if there is one, I admit I have no interest in the subject and have no direct knowledge) is that there is significant contradictory evidence that shows there is no correlation between the treatment and the outcomes. It isn't: "I thought about it and don't see why it should work so I think it mustn't" I would love, just once, for yet another commentator on the advertising practices of Google, Amazon, Facebook, et al to provide a shred of evidence for their baseless conjectures. But of course, there is no evidence. There is, in fact, no correlation based in fact or reality between homeopathy and the advertising practice of said companies. Just an attempt to use rhetoric to smear them based on personal agendas. You can hate the companies and their practices. You can hate advertising in general. But I see no reason to doubt the effectiveness of the techniques on rational principles alone. I have no doubt that there is a clear signal in their data that shows their practices achieve outcomes aligned with the needs and desires of their customers: the advertisers. You don't understand why because you lack of access to the data and are therefore unable to independently see that signal with your own eyes. To conclude that the companies are stupid or deceitful based on your own lack of independent confirmation is a kind of hubris that is outstanding.