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What’s the counter-narrative? That the sudden, rapid temperature swing only coincidentally happened after the industrial revolution but were somehow going to ha
by pohl 3y ago
What’s the counter-narrative? That the sudden, rapid temperature swing only coincidentally happened after the industrial revolution but were somehow going to happen anyway? That the greenhouse effect is a woke myth?
- lockhouse 3y agoCorrelation doesn't equal causation. Despite the common narrative to the contrary, there is no actual hard evidence of what degree humans have contributed to climate change and what will fix it. There are many theories and computer models, but no evidence. The issue is that history has shown many of these models to be extremely inaccurate. See below where it was predicted on ABC news in 2008 that the world would be doomed by 2015 (you know, 8 years ago)...none of that happened. https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/06/12/flashback-abcs-08-prediction-nyc-under-water-climate-change-june https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/06/12/... So with the constant Chicken Little coming from the climate change alarmists, I think you can understand some people's skepticism on the matter. https://www.unionleader.com/opinion/oped-global-warming-dishonesty-is-the-real-inconvenient-truth/article_1b58ee76-9abd-59a3-9a8d-6922253495cb.html https://www.unionleader.com/opinion/oped-global-warming-dish...
- pohl 3y agoMeasurements are evidence.
- lockhouse 3y agoEvidence that climate change itself is occurring, but not of anything else.
- _Microft 3y ago> There are many theories and computer models, but no evidence. Models and theories are what enabled us to develop all our technological progress. Before, there was random chance and tinkering. That changed when we started doing experiments and to model theories that fit the measurements. These theories made predictions which enabled us to see whether the model was actually valid. Data is worthless if you have no model to plug it in to make predictions from it. Beside that there are desktop experiments that are so simple that you could almost do them at home that show that the ability of an atmosphere to capture heat is influenced by its carbon dioxide content. These experiments were done over a hundred years ago. You seem very vocal about the topic. What are you trying to achieve?
- lockhouse 3y agoJust some more reasonable discussion on the topic instead of the usual alarmism and hysteria.
- anon25783 3y ago> Despite the common narrative to the contrary, there is no actual hard evidence of what degree humans have contributed to climate change and what will fix it. There are many theories and computer models, but no evidence. This is blatantly false.
- lockhouse 3y agoWhere is all this hard evidence? All I've ever seen are theories and computer models, many of which end up wrong. If I'm wrong, it should be easy for someone to provide the evidence.
- anon25783 3y agoJFGI, it should be easy for you to find unless you have a vested interest in avoiding it.
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoGives us a starting point, please.