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which policy intervention are you talking about?

by jhp123 3y ago

fullshark 3y ago
lockdowns and forced business closures. Edit: In case this is an invitation for a debate about what exactly is "policy" and whether it was a true intervention or a true forced lockdown... I have no interest in discussing that and I regret even bringing it up. Have a nice weekend.
- getmeinrn 3y ago
  Don't regret it. People will play word games with you and move the goalposts, but we all lived through it. Don't get demoralized by people who have boundless energy for gaslighting.
  - theossuary 3y ago
    That's funny because the only gaslighting I see is from people pretending that the pandemic didn't exist. Since the pandemic was declared over, I've started to see crazy people come out of the woodwork trying to gaslight me into thinking the pandemic wasn't as bad as I remember it.
    - getmeinrn 3y ago
      Why is that funny?
    - darkerside 3y ago
      The funny thing is, for a lot of people, it wasn't. They figured out a way to keep living their lives as all as they could, while minimizing concerns about whether this mysterious illness might be incredibly dangerous. And you never crossed paths with them because you were living in different worlds.
- jhp123 3y ago
  what lockdowns? where? Obviously some places (e.g. China) had lockdowns and others (e.g. Wyoming) did not. I'm asking which government's policy, and which specific one, not trying to gaslight you into thinking that there were no policy responses anywhere.
  - getmeinrn 3y ago
    A "stay at home order" is considered a lockdown, per wikipedia. If you disagree, take it up with the editors there. You will find them far more receptive than me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_responses_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic#Initial_pandemic_responses,_including_full_lockdowns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_governmen...
    - hattmall 3y ago
      Right but not everywhere did that. I was in Georgia and schools did close for 2 months, but other than that there was no type of lockdown or anything. I think for 2 weeks you couldn't get a hair cut and some restaurants were to go only. Then everything was incredibly busy and everyone had extra money. I went on vacation to Florida 3 or 4 times in the summer of 2020 and it was far busier than I had ever seen it.
      - defrost 3y ago
        I live in a "locked down" state - two million people, an area 3x larger than Texas. We locked down by checkpointing the two land roads in|out of the state and requiring anybody coming in by road | air | ship to quarentine under observation before freely moving about the state. Truckers dropped or picked up trailer loads w/out contact. Otherwise people largely moved about freely within the state aside from a few (very few) localised incidents of COVID transfer outside of buffer zones, in each case small areas were asked to restrict movement and mask up until no more cases appeared. That was kept up until vaccines became available and vaccination exceeded 90%. As a state with a strong sense of self goverance by people at large this wasn't a draconion top down unwanted imposition, it was very much an overwhelmingly popular broadly supported measure with very proportionally few dissenters.

which policy intervention are you talking about?

by jhp123 3y ago

which policy intervention are you talking about?

lockdowns and forced business closures. Edit: In case this is an invitation for a debate about what exactly is "policy" and whether it was a true intervention or a true forced lockdown... I have no interest in discussing that and I regret even bringing it up. Have a nice weekend.

getmeinrn 3y ago
Don't regret it. People will play word games with you and move the goalposts, but we all lived through it. Don't get demoralized by people who have boundless energy for gaslighting.
- theossuary 3y ago
  That's funny because the only gaslighting I see is from people pretending that the pandemic didn't exist. Since the pandemic was declared over, I've started to see crazy people come out of the woodwork trying to gaslight me into thinking the pandemic wasn't as bad as I remember it.
  - getmeinrn 3y ago
    Why is that funny?
  - darkerside 3y ago
    The funny thing is, for a lot of people, it wasn't. They figured out a way to keep living their lives as all as they could, while minimizing concerns about whether this mysterious illness might be incredibly dangerous. And you never crossed paths with them because you were living in different worlds.
jhp123 3y ago
what lockdowns? where? Obviously some places (e.g. China) had lockdowns and others (e.g. Wyoming) did not. I'm asking which government's policy, and which specific one, not trying to gaslight you into thinking that there were no policy responses anywhere.
- getmeinrn 3y ago
  A "stay at home order" is considered a lockdown, per wikipedia. If you disagree, take it up with the editors there. You will find them far more receptive than me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_responses_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic#Initial_pandemic_responses,_including_full_lockdowns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_governmen...
  - hattmall 3y ago
    Right but not everywhere did that. I was in Georgia and schools did close for 2 months, but other than that there was no type of lockdown or anything. I think for 2 weeks you couldn't get a hair cut and some restaurants were to go only. Then everything was incredibly busy and everyone had extra money. I went on vacation to Florida 3 or 4 times in the summer of 2020 and it was far busier than I had ever seen it.
    - defrost 3y ago
      I live in a "locked down" state - two million people, an area 3x larger than Texas. We locked down by checkpointing the two land roads in|out of the state and requiring anybody coming in by road | air | ship to quarentine under observation before freely moving about the state. Truckers dropped or picked up trailer loads w/out contact. Otherwise people largely moved about freely within the state aside from a few (very few) localised incidents of COVID transfer outside of buffer zones, in each case small areas were asked to restrict movement and mask up until no more cases appeared. That was kept up until vaccines became available and vaccination exceeded 90%. As a state with a strong sense of self goverance by people at large this wasn't a draconion top down unwanted imposition, it was very much an overwhelmingly popular broadly supported measure with very proportionally few dissenters.