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I really wish browsers would take this approach with notifications. If a website asks if I have notifications enabled, tell them yes, and send them all into th

I really wish browsers would take this approach with notifications. If a website asks if I have notifications enabled, tell them yes, and send them all into the oblivion. Edit: to clarify, I already disable all notifications in Firefox. I was referring to websites that check via JavaScript whether you have notifications turned on and trigger a pop up to ask you to enable them.

OJFord 3y ago
How's that different from just having it globally disabled? I've never had a site refuse to work at all because I haven't allowed it to send desktop notifications, does that happen?
- maxk42 3y ago
  I think he's saying the JavaScript nag message every time you visit one of these sites is annoying.
grishka 3y ago
You can disable notifications globally. I did it. Zero regrets. My browser is a hypertext document viewer, not an operating system. Here's also a userscript that removes the service worker API from Chromium browsers: // ==UserScript== // @name Remove service worker API // @namespace http://tampermonkey.net/ // @version 0.1 // @description try to take over the world! // @author You // @match https://*/* // @grant none // @run-at document-start // ==/UserScript== delete Object.getPrototypeOf(navigator).serviceWorker; In Firefox, iirc you can disable that API somewhere in about:config.
latexr 3y ago
On macOS you can disable notifications for any app in System Settings. When an app first requests it, you’ll get a system notification asking if you want to allow the app to send any. On Safari you can even disable the option for websites to request notification access. It’s on the Websites tab in Settings.
crazygringo 3y ago
Why? I don't enable notifications and it's fine, I've never had a problem. If you don't want notifications, why would you still want the website to send them?
- halfstep 3y ago
  Some websites will check whether you have notifications enabled and spawn an in-page pop up requesting access before they trigger the actual, native browser request. So ideally this would stop that from happening.
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    The best response to those websites is closing them and blocking them in your DNS blacklist to be honest. Either that, or full their newsletter subscription box with a million fake email addresses.
    - halfstep 3y ago
      Yeah that's fair. It feels like we're in an anti-pattern arms race and choosing to not participate is a valid call.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    It is so common that r/assholedesign has a specific rule not to post that kind of asshole design (because it is now boring). But sites that do it are hostile and should just be blocked. What other shenanigans are they pulling?
jeroenhd 3y ago
Just disable notifications. There's a setting for it in Chrome and Firefox, I'm sure there's a setting for Safari and the various Chromium forks as well. Set the notification permission to "deny by default" so you can manually opt into notifications later on a per site basis.
- kevincox 3y ago
  Yup. I have this on Firefox. Makes the web so much better. The only indication that the site asked for notifications is that there is a subtle "notifications denied" icon in the location bar. For the maybe two sites where I have enabled notifications I just click it and allow them.
zzo38computer 3y ago
Well, the user should be allowed to easily program it to send the notifications (or any other stuff that the web page may do) to a file (e.g. /dev/null) or to a pipe (e.g. a program that filters notifications).

OJFord 3y ago

How's that different from just having it globally disabled? I've never had a site refuse to work at all because I haven't allowed it to send desktop notifications, does that happen?

maxk42 3y ago
I think he's saying the JavaScript nag message every time you visit one of these sites is annoying.

grishka 3y ago

You can disable notifications globally. I did it. Zero regrets. My browser is a hypertext document viewer, not an operating system. Here's also a userscript that removes the service worker API from Chromium browsers: // ==UserScript== // @name Remove service worker API // @namespace http://tampermonkey.net/ // @version 0.1 // @description try to take over the world! // @author You // @match https://*/* // @grant none // @run-at document-start // ==/UserScript== delete Object.getPrototypeOf(navigator).serviceWorker; In Firefox, iirc you can disable that API somewhere in about:config.

latexr 3y ago

On macOS you can disable notifications for any app in System Settings. When an app first requests it, you’ll get a system notification asking if you want to allow the app to send any. On Safari you can even disable the option for websites to request notification access. It’s on the Websites tab in Settings.

crazygringo 3y ago

Why? I don't enable notifications and it's fine, I've never had a problem. If you don't want notifications, why would you still want the website to send them?

halfstep 3y ago
Some websites will check whether you have notifications enabled and spawn an in-page pop up requesting access before they trigger the actual, native browser request. So ideally this would stop that from happening.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  The best response to those websites is closing them and blocking them in your DNS blacklist to be honest. Either that, or full their newsletter subscription box with a million fake email addresses.
  - halfstep 3y ago
    Yeah that's fair. It feels like we're in an anti-pattern arms race and choosing to not participate is a valid call.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  It is so common that r/assholedesign has a specific rule not to post that kind of asshole design (because it is now boring). But sites that do it are hostile and should just be blocked. What other shenanigans are they pulling?

jeroenhd 3y ago

Just disable notifications. There's a setting for it in Chrome and Firefox, I'm sure there's a setting for Safari and the various Chromium forks as well. Set the notification permission to "deny by default" so you can manually opt into notifications later on a per site basis.

kevincox 3y ago
Yup. I have this on Firefox. Makes the web so much better. The only indication that the site asked for notifications is that there is a subtle "notifications denied" icon in the location bar. For the maybe two sites where I have enabled notifications I just click it and allow them.

zzo38computer 3y ago

Well, the user should be allowed to easily program it to send the notifications (or any other stuff that the web page may do) to a file (e.g. /dev/null) or to a pipe (e.g. a program that filters notifications).