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I dropped out of college and my earnings last year (still in my mid/late 20s, have easily another promo or job hop before 32) are over double the Harvard median

I dropped out of college and my earnings last year (still in my mid/late 20s, have easily another promo or job hop before 32) are over double the Harvard median, therefore dropping out of school causes you to earn 8x the national median. "Doesn't count" you say? "Confounding variables" you say? "Causation and correlation aren't the same" you say? I'll just have to take your word for it, grad, it's not like I have a college degree after all! P.S. I love rejecting Ivy League grads in interview loops. They've very consistently been the absolute worst performers on LC easies.

tr3ntg 3y ago
Biased much? Lording acceptance/rejection over any candidate seems like a trip But to stay on topic, I generally agree with the consensus of this thread and your comment. The inputs and outputs here probably aren’t linked to the schooling itself.
- anonym29 3y ago
  I wouldn't say I lord it over anyone. I'm very polite to all candidates and make my decisions strictly based on technical performance. That Ivy League grads tend to bizarrely be reliably poor in this regard (a surprising number fail to actually produce working solutions) simply amuses me - no amount of intergenerational wealth is a substitute for competence. Technical aptitude tests are the great equalizer between the haves and the have-nots. That's not to say I've never given an Ivy League grad a thumbs up in the loop, but their performance tends to subvert popular opinion and expectations of "Ivy League grads" as a group. In case anyone's curious, the group that most reliably aces the challenges I provide are first generation Chinese immigrants. It's basically the norm that they will not only produce working solutions to every problem, but that they complete their solutions quicker than other candidates, and that their solutions are computationally quicker and more efficient than those of other candidates as well. I am not Chinese or an immigrant. I have no loyalty or allegiance to China. I would describe China's political system as apalling. Hypothetically, as a business owner with valuable IP, I'd be weary of first generation Chinese immigrants on espionage grounds. First generation Chinese immigrants might as well be the least likely group for me to offer preferential bias to. That said, I can't argue with results. If you've got the skills, I couldn't care less about the reputation of the place you came from, regardless of whether it's a specific country, specific school, or lack thereof. Also, I'm not given enough of a vested interest in my employer's company to care about whether they suffer IP theft, nor is my job to prevent that, only to judge who among our candidates has the requisite aptitude and who doesn't.
  - blanketcitrus 3y ago
    I'm sure you are super-non-biased and a completely rational and logical being that has no grudge whatsoever against anyone or any institution
    - anonym29 3y ago
      I think you're missing a /s
dudeinjapan 3y ago
It works even better if you drop out of Harvard like Gates and Zuckerberg did!
gist 3y ago
> P.S. I love rejecting Ivy League grads Saying 'I love' makes you lose credibility and deprecates the points you are making. > I dropped out of college and my earnings last year (still in my mid/late 20s, have easily another promo or job hop before 32) are over double the Harvard median, therefore dropping out of school causes you to earn 8x the national median. Good luck going forward. This is a small slice of your life. Things can and do change with earnings. As many old timers might tell you there are always many 'changes of fortune' where people who are beneath you early on end up surpassing you later in life.

tr3ntg 3y ago

Biased much? Lording acceptance/rejection over any candidate seems like a trip But to stay on topic, I generally agree with the consensus of this thread and your comment. The inputs and outputs here probably aren’t linked to the schooling itself.

anonym29 3y ago
I wouldn't say I lord it over anyone. I'm very polite to all candidates and make my decisions strictly based on technical performance. That Ivy League grads tend to bizarrely be reliably poor in this regard (a surprising number fail to actually produce working solutions) simply amuses me - no amount of intergenerational wealth is a substitute for competence. Technical aptitude tests are the great equalizer between the haves and the have-nots. That's not to say I've never given an Ivy League grad a thumbs up in the loop, but their performance tends to subvert popular opinion and expectations of "Ivy League grads" as a group. In case anyone's curious, the group that most reliably aces the challenges I provide are first generation Chinese immigrants. It's basically the norm that they will not only produce working solutions to every problem, but that they complete their solutions quicker than other candidates, and that their solutions are computationally quicker and more efficient than those of other candidates as well. I am not Chinese or an immigrant. I have no loyalty or allegiance to China. I would describe China's political system as apalling. Hypothetically, as a business owner with valuable IP, I'd be weary of first generation Chinese immigrants on espionage grounds. First generation Chinese immigrants might as well be the least likely group for me to offer preferential bias to. That said, I can't argue with results. If you've got the skills, I couldn't care less about the reputation of the place you came from, regardless of whether it's a specific country, specific school, or lack thereof. Also, I'm not given enough of a vested interest in my employer's company to care about whether they suffer IP theft, nor is my job to prevent that, only to judge who among our candidates has the requisite aptitude and who doesn't.
- blanketcitrus 3y ago
  I'm sure you are super-non-biased and a completely rational and logical being that has no grudge whatsoever against anyone or any institution
  - anonym29 3y ago
    I think you're missing a /s

dudeinjapan 3y ago

It works even better if you drop out of Harvard like Gates and Zuckerberg did!

gist 3y ago

> P.S. I love rejecting Ivy League grads Saying 'I love' makes you lose credibility and deprecates the points you are making. > I dropped out of college and my earnings last year (still in my mid/late 20s, have easily another promo or job hop before 32) are over double the Harvard median, therefore dropping out of school causes you to earn 8x the national median. Good luck going forward. This is a small slice of your life. Things can and do change with earnings. As many old timers might tell you there are always many 'changes of fortune' where people who are beneath you early on end up surpassing you later in life.