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The name is misleading: this project is not based on LLaMA as released by Meta. It sends data to OpenAI by default.

kernelsanderz 3y ago
It's not really. It was unfortunate timing. This used to be called GPT-Index, and then they changed names before Meta released their LLM. So their use predated it. I feel sorry for the amazing team behind this great library. Changing names is hard.
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  Wow, that is some really bad luck.
- homarp 3y ago
  17 feb 2023, https://twitter.com/llama_index/status/1626387226639888385 https://twitter.com/llama_index/status/1626387226639888385 'Today, we’re kicking off a rebrand of @gpt_index to : LlamaIndex ' Meta announcing LLaMa 24 feb 2023 https://ai.facebook.com/blog/large-language-model-llama-meta-ai/ https://ai.facebook.com/blog/large-language-model-llama-meta...
  - SebJansen 3y ago
    third time's a charm
- gtirloni 3y ago
  Was Llama a top-secret name at Meta? Could it have leaked?
  - lolinder 3y ago
    It's a pretty easy pun to arrive at from the letters LLM, so I don't think we need a leak to explain the coincidence.
    - gtirloni 3y ago
      Oh, right. I always miss these puns.
- peterisza 3y ago
  Why is it hard? They should change it back. s/Llama/GPT-/g
  - lolinder 3y ago
    OpenAI has started sending out threatening letters to people who use GPT in their project name. If they don't want to be the test case for that (pending) trademark, I don't blame them.
    - peterisza 3y ago
      Holy sh.t! I didn't know that.
      - lolinder 3y ago
        Discussed here a few months back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35973645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35973645
        peterisza 3y ago
        Thanks
    - swader999 3y ago
      Imma gonna go and grab gippity.com asap.
behnamoh 3y ago
Still, they could have used a more general term other than "llama". They had it coming imo. Sometimes developers come up with creative and interesting names for their products, but other times they fail miserably.
- lolinder 3y ago
  They being Meta or they being the developers of LlamaIndex? As noted in your sibling comment, LlamaIndex was public first.
  - behnamoh 3y ago
    the latter. Meta’s naming made sense cuz it was an acronym. LlamaIndex sounds like a joke name and not well thought out for such an ambitious product.
    - lolinder 3y ago
      Meta's naming is clearly also a joke. It's a backronym, not an acronym— it's pretty obvious they started with Llama and came up with a cute acronym to justify it. Large LAnguage Model Meta AI Not saying they're not entitled to use the name too, but laying the blame on the developers of LlamaIndex when they had no idea that LLaMA was coming isn't fair to them.

It's not really. It was unfortunate timing. This used to be called GPT-Index, and then they changed names before Meta released their LLM. So their use predated it. I feel sorry for the amazing team behind this great library. Changing names is hard.

ShamelessC 3y ago
Wow, that is some really bad luck.
homarp 3y ago
17 feb 2023, https://twitter.com/llama_index/status/1626387226639888385 https://twitter.com/llama_index/status/1626387226639888385 'Today, we’re kicking off a rebrand of @gpt_index to : LlamaIndex ' Meta announcing LLaMa 24 feb 2023 https://ai.facebook.com/blog/large-language-model-llama-meta-ai/ https://ai.facebook.com/blog/large-language-model-llama-meta...
- SebJansen 3y ago
  third time's a charm
gtirloni 3y ago
Was Llama a top-secret name at Meta? Could it have leaked?
- lolinder 3y ago
  It's a pretty easy pun to arrive at from the letters LLM, so I don't think we need a leak to explain the coincidence.
  - gtirloni 3y ago
    Oh, right. I always miss these puns.
peterisza 3y ago
Why is it hard? They should change it back. s/Llama/GPT-/g
- lolinder 3y ago
  OpenAI has started sending out threatening letters to people who use GPT in their project name. If they don't want to be the test case for that (pending) trademark, I don't blame them.
  - peterisza 3y ago
    Holy sh.t! I didn't know that.
    - lolinder 3y ago
      Discussed here a few months back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35973645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35973645
      - peterisza 3y ago
        Thanks
  - swader999 3y ago
    Imma gonna go and grab gippity.com asap.

behnamoh 3y ago

Still, they could have used a more general term other than "llama". They had it coming imo. Sometimes developers come up with creative and interesting names for their products, but other times they fail miserably.

lolinder 3y ago
They being Meta or they being the developers of LlamaIndex? As noted in your sibling comment, LlamaIndex was public first.
- behnamoh 3y ago
  the latter. Meta’s naming made sense cuz it was an acronym. LlamaIndex sounds like a joke name and not well thought out for such an ambitious product.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    Meta's naming is clearly also a joke. It's a backronym, not an acronym— it's pretty obvious they started with Llama and came up with a cute acronym to justify it. Large LAnguage Model Meta AI Not saying they're not entitled to use the name too, but laying the blame on the developers of LlamaIndex when they had no idea that LLaMA was coming isn't fair to them.