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How is it not obvious that a legal transgressor would justify their transgression? The fact that bad people generally don't feel like bad people is a universal

How is it not obvious that a legal transgressor would justify their transgression? The fact that bad people generally don't feel like bad people is a universal understanding of the human condition. Not interested in making comparisons to someone that you can't separate from a type of neo-sainthood. Anyhow, having an unpopular opinion isn't antisocial or illegal. Buying heroin is.

wesselbindt 3y ago
In referring to recreational drug users as bad people, I think you're conflating morality with legality, which is common, but wrong.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  Doing drugs is immoral because it compromises your ability to serve your community and live up to the expectations and responsibilities that come with living in a society. If you can keep your life balanced while on drugs, good for you. But you're still toying with the risk of you getting addicted and losing control; to even take that risk is selfish.
RoyalHenOil 3y ago
It's not a comparison. It's an analogy. This is actually a pretty important distinction because analogies are vital for illustrating concepts in a more concrete way; it's why we got drilled and tested on analogies again and again in school. But let me try again without making an analogy: Some percentage of people do X and therefore try to justify doing X. But another percentage of people think X is justified and therefore do X. You do not appear to make a distinction between these two cases. You lump the latter in with the former and then dismiss their views out of hand. This is such bad logic that I am beginning to suspect that you are are actually being a hypocrite here: that you dislike drug users emotionally, and so you are trying extra hard to justify that dislike intellectually, even when it requires blatantly fallacious reasoning. (And, dammit, here I ended up making another analogy, albeit hopefully subtly enough that you don't accuse me of comparing you to a criminal.)

wesselbindt 3y ago

In referring to recreational drug users as bad people, I think you're conflating morality with legality, which is common, but wrong.

mcpackieh 3y ago
Doing drugs is immoral because it compromises your ability to serve your community and live up to the expectations and responsibilities that come with living in a society. If you can keep your life balanced while on drugs, good for you. But you're still toying with the risk of you getting addicted and losing control; to even take that risk is selfish.

RoyalHenOil 3y ago

It's not a comparison. It's an analogy. This is actually a pretty important distinction because analogies are vital for illustrating concepts in a more concrete way; it's why we got drilled and tested on analogies again and again in school. But let me try again without making an analogy: Some percentage of people do X and therefore try to justify doing X. But another percentage of people think X is justified and therefore do X. You do not appear to make a distinction between these two cases. You lump the latter in with the former and then dismiss their views out of hand. This is such bad logic that I am beginning to suspect that you are are actually being a hypocrite here: that you dislike drug users emotionally, and so you are trying extra hard to justify that dislike intellectually, even when it requires blatantly fallacious reasoning. (And, dammit, here I ended up making another analogy, albeit hopefully subtly enough that you don't accuse me of comparing you to a criminal.)