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If you are looking for a new host, I'm pretty happy with Fastmail.

CharlesW 3y ago
I'll throw my hat in the ring for iCloud+, which I migrated to from Google Workspace (using imapsync) and may be a good choice if you use iCloud anyway. Apple's been hosting email for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable, no-muss/no-fuss email host for me. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514
- codetrotter 3y ago
  One of my favourite features with iCloud mail is generating new email addresses for each service, in a very integrated straight forward manner Before iCould I used to to this manually with my own mail In the first iteration I had a catch all address, so I could invent any new email address and it would arrive to me. This was plagued by spam because any conceivable user @ my domain would be delivered to me. In the second iteration I manually created aliases in the config file for my mail server when signing up for new things. This was additional overhead and annoying. iCloud thanks to the integration into Safari and apps is so smooth with this. I just click the “hide my email” button and it generates a new unique email for the place I am filling in an email address. I love it!
  - zwily 3y ago
    This isn’t a feature of iCloud mail - Apple will do this no matter who your provider is. They create an address and then just forward emails for it to your real address.
    - withinboredom 3y ago
      Fastmail + 1password also has this feature.
      - pests 3y ago
        The Apple version is very nicely integrated into iOS.
        withinboredom 3y ago
        Not sure what you mean by this? The 1password version is integrated using the exact same hooks/methodology as Apple's; except it isn't Apple's.
- evulhotdog 3y ago
  Unfortunately when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, which means you’ll end up sharing between services. It’s something like 150, and I can personally say I have about 500 or so right now in fast mail for different logins, and I haven’t even fully migrated yet.
  - latexr 3y ago
    > when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, (…) It’s something like 150 Do you have a source? I did find reports saying that it was limited to 100 during the beta but that the limit has since been lifted. People are claiming almost 350 addresses with no cap. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253893742 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253893742 https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/pbfg1t/hide_my_email_limit_of_100_addresses_dropped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/pbfg1t/hide_my_ema... https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-privacy/ https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-privacy/
    - evulhotdog 3y ago
      It’s been at least a year or so since I read that, so it’s very possible that it’s changed. As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find.
      - latexr 3y ago
        > As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find. I agree Apple’s documentation is terrible, but if there is no limit (any more) then there would little reason to document that.
        bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
        Indeed, if there's no limit, you probably want to not document it, lest you tempt someone with too much time on their hands to test if unlimited really means unlimited.
- twleo 3y ago
  iCloud filter rules is so weak...
  - bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
    On iCloud.com, yeah, but on Mac you can use rules to run arbitrary code on your emails, which is pretty sweet.
    - twleo 3y ago
      Hmm. I rely mores on server-side filter rules because I don't use native Mail client.
- bunga-bunga 3y ago
  > for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable It seems that Apple has gotten better at online services, but MobileMe was not that long ago.
slondr 3y ago
They don’t even do server side encryption, though. Might as well use Gmail.
- intermerda 3y ago
  I’ve been using Skiff for just a few days. The interface looks polished, and they have e2e encryption. It’s relatively new though.
  - Yujf 3y ago
    They do e2e to other skiff users, but given that the majority of your mail probably goes to none skiff users, what are you gaining?
brobinson 3y ago
They are based in Australia, though.
- TheHappyOddish 3y ago
  Good? You seem to be implying that's a worse thing than wherever Proton Mail is based, but haven't stated why.
  - strken 3y ago
    It's Swiss. From memory they have pretty good legal protections for privacy, at least compared to Australia.
  - davejk 3y ago
    Australian law allows the government to demand access to your email, and Fastmail hold the encryption keys. That's not the case for Switzerland.
    - drexlspivey 3y ago
      What encryption keys? Fastmail doesnt offer encrypted email
      - davejk 3y ago
        Data at rest in encrypted volumes. That's not saying much, obviously; you'd hope everyone is using encrypted storage for user data by now.
  - spiderice 3y ago
    Not GP, but I would imagine they’re referring to Australia’s not-so-stellar track record with encryption lately.
- MrVandemar 3y ago
  Is that a negative? I guess the redback spiders do make nests in the server-racks sometimes.

I'll throw my hat in the ring for iCloud+, which I migrated to from Google Workspace (using imapsync) and may be a good choice if you use iCloud anyway. Apple's been hosting email for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable, no-muss/no-fuss email host for me. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514

codetrotter 3y ago
One of my favourite features with iCloud mail is generating new email addresses for each service, in a very integrated straight forward manner Before iCould I used to to this manually with my own mail In the first iteration I had a catch all address, so I could invent any new email address and it would arrive to me. This was plagued by spam because any conceivable user @ my domain would be delivered to me. In the second iteration I manually created aliases in the config file for my mail server when signing up for new things. This was additional overhead and annoying. iCloud thanks to the integration into Safari and apps is so smooth with this. I just click the “hide my email” button and it generates a new unique email for the place I am filling in an email address. I love it!
- zwily 3y ago
  This isn’t a feature of iCloud mail - Apple will do this no matter who your provider is. They create an address and then just forward emails for it to your real address.
  - withinboredom 3y ago
    Fastmail + 1password also has this feature.
    - pests 3y ago
      The Apple version is very nicely integrated into iOS.
      - withinboredom 3y ago
        Not sure what you mean by this? The 1password version is integrated using the exact same hooks/methodology as Apple's; except it isn't Apple's.
evulhotdog 3y ago
Unfortunately when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, which means you’ll end up sharing between services. It’s something like 150, and I can personally say I have about 500 or so right now in fast mail for different logins, and I haven’t even fully migrated yet.
- latexr 3y ago
  > when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, (…) It’s something like 150 Do you have a source? I did find reports saying that it was limited to 100 during the beta but that the limit has since been lifted. People are claiming almost 350 addresses with no cap. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253893742 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253893742 https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/pbfg1t/hide_my_email_limit_of_100_addresses_dropped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/pbfg1t/hide_my_ema... https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-privacy/ https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-privacy/
  - evulhotdog 3y ago
    It’s been at least a year or so since I read that, so it’s very possible that it’s changed. As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find.
    - latexr 3y ago
      > As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find. I agree Apple’s documentation is terrible, but if there is no limit (any more) then there would little reason to document that.
      - bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
        Indeed, if there's no limit, you probably want to not document it, lest you tempt someone with too much time on their hands to test if unlimited really means unlimited.
twleo 3y ago
iCloud filter rules is so weak...
- bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
  On iCloud.com, yeah, but on Mac you can use rules to run arbitrary code on your emails, which is pretty sweet.
  - twleo 3y ago
    Hmm. I rely mores on server-side filter rules because I don't use native Mail client.
bunga-bunga 3y ago
> for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable It seems that Apple has gotten better at online services, but MobileMe was not that long ago.

slondr 3y ago

They don’t even do server side encryption, though. Might as well use Gmail.

intermerda 3y ago
I’ve been using Skiff for just a few days. The interface looks polished, and they have e2e encryption. It’s relatively new though.
- Yujf 3y ago
  They do e2e to other skiff users, but given that the majority of your mail probably goes to none skiff users, what are you gaining?

brobinson 3y ago

They are based in Australia, though.

TheHappyOddish 3y ago
Good? You seem to be implying that's a worse thing than wherever Proton Mail is based, but haven't stated why.
- strken 3y ago
  It's Swiss. From memory they have pretty good legal protections for privacy, at least compared to Australia.
- davejk 3y ago
  Australian law allows the government to demand access to your email, and Fastmail hold the encryption keys. That's not the case for Switzerland.
  - drexlspivey 3y ago
    What encryption keys? Fastmail doesnt offer encrypted email
    - davejk 3y ago
      Data at rest in encrypted volumes. That's not saying much, obviously; you'd hope everyone is using encrypted storage for user data by now.
- spiderice 3y ago
  Not GP, but I would imagine they’re referring to Australia’s not-so-stellar track record with encryption lately.
MrVandemar 3y ago
Is that a negative? I guess the redback spiders do make nests in the server-racks sometimes.