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https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-m

https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-menta... This nice timelime adds to what this person said. There's more that helped shape the publics perception of mental health. The movie "One flew over the cukcoos nest" seemed to create a negative perception about these facilities. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1983.53.1.179?journalCode=prxa https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1983.53.1.1... This study in 1983, though small, showed that 4 out of 5 people who were questioned before the film was released ,then after, changed their view of mental institutions to negative. They also showed them a TV documentary that was more factual about the mental health system but it didn't have an impact. In my opinion this is case of the public hearing about a systemtic issue within a very nessacary institution, regardless of how frequent or serious, becoming upset, locking their view in, then the government taking action by either reducing or eliminating that institution.

cafard 3y ago
There were movies before Cuckoo's Nest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies
- connicpu 3y ago
  Sure, but we've all heard of Cuckoo's Nest, very few have heard of the others.
germinalphrase 3y ago
There were a number of scandals and exposes during that time including Geraldo Rivera making a name for himself with his investigations of the Willowbrook State School in NY. The closure of such institutions was very much a national movement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School
- themitigating 3y ago
  If there were scandals at fire departments around the country would you eliminate some or all of them? It's the same with mental institutions. There are people who should be committed for the rest of their lives and nothing, short of curing them, changes that
  - germinalphrase 3y ago
    I don’t disagree that institutions should be part of the equation. I was just expanding on the earlier comment.
    - themitigating 3y ago
      You're right. I read into your comment and assumed you meant that the closing were justified
Der_Einzige 3y ago
Unironically good. Ken Kesey is a saint. For as bad as the current situation is, being stuck in mental institutions of that quality (which most were) is far worse.
- coryrc 3y ago
  How's it working out for these folks? https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/couple-attacked-man-killed-while-retrieving-stolen-items-seattle-homeless-encampment/EFALVP4AENHFBEFZRKHFE7JLKU/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/couple-attacked-man-killed-... https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/suspect-charged-south-lake-union-rape/281-91d9673d-48cc-4735-ab21-6f67a65c2b61 https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/suspect-charged-sou... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10492101/Moment-homeless-man-attacks-Amazon-deliverer-baseball-bat-leaving-fractured-skull.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10492101/Moment-hom... I guess, fine for them, bad for us. They'll end up confined anyway, just a lot of collateral damage on the way.
lazystar 3y ago
hmm like the effect Jaws had on sharks.

cafard 3y ago

There were movies before Cuckoo's Nest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titicut_Follies

connicpu 3y ago
Sure, but we've all heard of Cuckoo's Nest, very few have heard of the others.

germinalphrase 3y ago

There were a number of scandals and exposes during that time including Geraldo Rivera making a name for himself with his investigations of the Willowbrook State School in NY. The closure of such institutions was very much a national movement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School

themitigating 3y ago
If there were scandals at fire departments around the country would you eliminate some or all of them? It's the same with mental institutions. There are people who should be committed for the rest of their lives and nothing, short of curing them, changes that
- germinalphrase 3y ago
  I don’t disagree that institutions should be part of the equation. I was just expanding on the earlier comment.
  - themitigating 3y ago
    You're right. I read into your comment and assumed you meant that the closing were justified

Der_Einzige 3y ago

Unironically good. Ken Kesey is a saint. For as bad as the current situation is, being stuck in mental institutions of that quality (which most were) is far worse.

coryrc 3y ago
How's it working out for these folks? https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/couple-attacked-man-killed-while-retrieving-stolen-items-seattle-homeless-encampment/EFALVP4AENHFBEFZRKHFE7JLKU/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/couple-attacked-man-killed-... https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/suspect-charged-south-lake-union-rape/281-91d9673d-48cc-4735-ab21-6f67a65c2b61 https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/suspect-charged-sou... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10492101/Moment-homeless-man-attacks-Amazon-deliverer-baseball-bat-leaving-fractured-skull.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10492101/Moment-hom... I guess, fine for them, bad for us. They'll end up confined anyway, just a lot of collateral damage on the way.

lazystar 3y ago

hmm like the effect Jaws had on sharks.