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it would help

by dsgnr 3y ago

it would help

theluketaylor 3y ago
Agreed. The housing crisis has been decades in the making and we are so far past any one solution being able to make any meaningful progress. We need 15 solutions applied consistently over the next few decades, including making sure housing units are not taken off the market to be used as short term rentals on Airbnb. I have no problem with people making some extra cash renting their place while they are away for a few weeks a year to offset their vacation costs, but housing shouldn’t be locked away from a long term resident.
fragmede 3y ago
not especially. build more housing. the other option, have fewer people, is going to be wildly unpopular.
- brailsafe 3y ago
  Why would more housong be effective if people will just buy them up and list om AirBnB anyway? Seems like for any discrete action to be effective, the rest also need to be acted upon. To build more you need less systematic opposition to building more (zoning and reduction of public hearing and regulatory delays), then there needs be some constraint on buying all stock up as an investment commodity, and also a reasonable framework to allow profiting off of buolding decent rentals, but jot so relentlessly that it consumes communities and displaces potentially long-term residents
  - fragmede 3y ago
    As much as you're afraid there is, there isn't infinite demand for Airbnbs. There are only so many hosts with so much money and only so many tourists and staycationers with only so much money. With enough housing supply, people who are trying to become long-term residents are able to get into and afford to live there. Adding infinity housing units to a market is not practical, but adding more will help, along with adding laws to limit the number of Airbnbs allowed.
    - brailsafe 3y ago
      > but adding more will help, along with adding laws to limit the number of Airbnbs allowed. Right exactly. You build more and you limit the number of AirBnBs. > As much as you're afraid there is, there isn't infinite demand for Airbnbs. There are only so many hosts with so much money and only so many tourists and staycationers with only so much money. I largely disagree with this, but it depends on where you live. They are subject to some market forces sure, but also induced demand and simply supplanting residents that might be forced to move between AirBnBs, and even in off-seasons it can be a situation where the owner just leaves the property empty to capitalize on appreciation.
      - fragmede 3y ago
        I'm struggling to see where you disagree with me, since you admit that market forces exist. empty housing is abhorrent to me.
- HWR_14 3y ago
  Getting rid of airBnB is a cheap way to increase housing by 1%. And that 1% is an average. Probably more than that in popular cities that need housing and significantly less in rural areas that have plenty of housing.

it would help

by dsgnr 3y ago

it would help

Agreed. The housing crisis has been decades in the making and we are so far past any one solution being able to make any meaningful progress. We need 15 solutions applied consistently over the next few decades, including making sure housing units are not taken off the market to be used as short term rentals on Airbnb. I have no problem with people making some extra cash renting their place while they are away for a few weeks a year to offset their vacation costs, but housing shouldn’t be locked away from a long term resident.

fragmede 3y ago

not especially. build more housing. the other option, have fewer people, is going to be wildly unpopular.

brailsafe 3y ago
Why would more housong be effective if people will just buy them up and list om AirBnB anyway? Seems like for any discrete action to be effective, the rest also need to be acted upon. To build more you need less systematic opposition to building more (zoning and reduction of public hearing and regulatory delays), then there needs be some constraint on buying all stock up as an investment commodity, and also a reasonable framework to allow profiting off of buolding decent rentals, but jot so relentlessly that it consumes communities and displaces potentially long-term residents
- fragmede 3y ago
  As much as you're afraid there is, there isn't infinite demand for Airbnbs. There are only so many hosts with so much money and only so many tourists and staycationers with only so much money. With enough housing supply, people who are trying to become long-term residents are able to get into and afford to live there. Adding infinity housing units to a market is not practical, but adding more will help, along with adding laws to limit the number of Airbnbs allowed.
  - brailsafe 3y ago
    > but adding more will help, along with adding laws to limit the number of Airbnbs allowed. Right exactly. You build more and you limit the number of AirBnBs. > As much as you're afraid there is, there isn't infinite demand for Airbnbs. There are only so many hosts with so much money and only so many tourists and staycationers with only so much money. I largely disagree with this, but it depends on where you live. They are subject to some market forces sure, but also induced demand and simply supplanting residents that might be forced to move between AirBnBs, and even in off-seasons it can be a situation where the owner just leaves the property empty to capitalize on appreciation.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      I'm struggling to see where you disagree with me, since you admit that market forces exist. empty housing is abhorrent to me.
HWR_14 3y ago
Getting rid of airBnB is a cheap way to increase housing by 1%. And that 1% is an average. Probably more than that in popular cities that need housing and significantly less in rural areas that have plenty of housing.