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This looks like what happens when the "All abstractions are leaky" crowd go too far. It's an absence of abstraction to the point that the intermediary layer is
by fidotron 3y ago
This looks like what happens when the "All abstractions are leaky" crowd go too far. It's an absence of abstraction to the point that the intermediary layer is not helpful enough, and will simply end up hidden behind another layer of obfuscatory gunk.
Graphics people need to face the fact that writing optimised cross platform renderers is not something that can be solved by divide/conquer into layers in this bottom up way anymore, instead you need to architect the data flow of the renderer and implement platform specific/optimal approaches for each sub part of that, which are so specific that this sort of wrapper would not help. This isn't exactly far removed from the pyramids -> gothic cathedral comparison.
- robbies 3y agoDon’t you think this is already happening for most AAA production tech? Most high performance real-time stuff does go top-down. Mid-core stuff or art tooling might be fine with bgfx (or this I guess).
- bmitc 3y agoI have been researching, and it is my current understanding that this is the approach that WebGPU takes, specifically wgpu. Is that right? I have been thinking that wgpu is the best choice available for intermediate cross platform graphics one level below something like Skia and one level above Vulkan, OpenGL, DirectX, and Metal.
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- usrusr 3y agoReads to me like the usual collection of utility/glue that people build for their own needs? Those usually don't get open sourced, but it's also not wrong to do that. At least if you can resist the urge to announce it as the graphics API to end all graphics APIs...
- nomel 3y ago> can resist the urge to announce it as the graphics API to end all graphics APIs Please quote the text that made you believe this. It's a very negative take.
- usrusr 3y agoI did not intend to imply that they did. Sorry if that hasn't been clear. I was considering adding a few words in that direction but went with brevity.
- Jasper_ 3y agoYou can build far better abstractions than what we have here. A lot of games that support more than two platforms have graphics abstractions that leak less than this.