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The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked

The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked to just the enterprise and will likely never change..

LoganDark 3y ago
> unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. I recently purchased a Windows 10 Enterprise key from a website called "RoyalCDKeys" for under $4. It worked to upgrade my Windows 11 installation. Basically any reseller will work but only if they use a payment processor other than PayPal. PayPal will only end in misery and your money being lost.
abwizz 3y ago
"service channels" are not a thing anymore?
londons_explore 3y ago
> can't purchase There are certain high seas where such things are plentiful.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  This is equally as dangerous.
  - windowspiracy 3y ago
    Eh, not really. You can download a windows pro ISO straight from microsoft [0], install it, and then upgrade it to enterprise using the kms client key [1]. That can then be activated using an open source kms server emulator [2] that has a reasonable amount of code you can audit if you're extremely paranoid. If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing and then upgrading I'm also pretty sure you can upgrade one of the images in the wim offline using dism. 0: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (will serve you an iso directly instead of the media creation tool if you give it a linux user agent) 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started... 2: https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master
    - hospitalJail 3y ago
      Interesting. I do work on my windows machine, so doing anything illegal just gives me the opportunity to lose 1000x more money than if I just upgraded legally.
- bruce343434 3y ago
  With all that risk and effort, seriously why not just use linux?
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    https://www.protondb.com/explore https://www.protondb.com/explore Because most of this list is not Native or Platinum. Games on Windows just work. Also, how well does VR work in Linux these days?
    - gs17 3y ago
      VR on Linux depends on your headset mostly AFAIK. Oculus (Quest will work with ALVR streaming, but I had mixed results) and WMR require software that isn't on Linux. Valve Index supposedly has good support and VR games are playable with Proton.
    - kobalsky 3y ago
      > Also, how well does VR work in Linux these days? this loaded question should be directed towards the developers. that any Windows game works on Linux at all, given Microsoft's record regarding interoperability, seems like a miracle. If I had to make an equally loaded question I'd say, what OS are they using to host their game servers?
      - londons_explore 3y ago
        Game servers are fairly frequently hosted on Windows, simply because the game server often shares a lot of code with the client (including libraries which may not be cross platform), and game developers are often most familiar with Windows.
    - stOneskull 3y ago
      i don't know anymore. i'm getting really annoyed by background processes interfering with my counter-strike ping. like microsoft is checking my mail or uploading some telemetry bs or something. i can't wait to get back on linux.
TheSkyHasEyes 3y ago
Tiny11 is a thing but I've no experience with it. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tiny11 https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tiny11
nobody9999 3y ago
>The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked to just the enterprise and will likely never change.. Of course you can purchase "enterprise" versions of Windows 11[0]. What's more, anyone can purchase most of Microsoft's offerings for ~USD$1000[1]. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h4 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h... [1] https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/
- ailurooo 3y ago
  a license at 1000 is not a license that's purchasable for a normal consumer.. you may also need to sign a EA and this opens a can of worms. The point is that you normally can't obtain a enterprise license.
  - nobody9999 3y ago
    >a license at 1000 is not a license that's purchasable for a normal consumer.. you may also need to sign a EA and this opens a can of worms. The point is that you normally can't obtain a enterprise license. That's just not true. cf. the link I posted[0]. Anyone can buy a Visual Studio Developer Subscription (formerly "Technet Library" and "MSDN" packages) (USD$1199.00) without an enterprise agreement with Microsoft. I've used it for many years and will continue to do so. And you don't need to renew it either (I'll generally do so every 5-7 years to get access to the latest stuff, but it's not necessary or required), especially since the software isn't "in the cloud" so you can have most of Microsoft's products (workstation and server) on local media. But if you think I (and the Microsoft subscription page) don't know what I'm talking about, feel free to ignore me. It's no skin off my nose. In fact, it's about time for me to go and do (for the fourth or fifth time) what you say I can't do. Thanks for reminding me! [0] https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ Edit: Fixed typo. added missing words.

LoganDark 3y ago

> unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. I recently purchased a Windows 10 Enterprise key from a website called "RoyalCDKeys" for under $4. It worked to upgrade my Windows 11 installation. Basically any reseller will work but only if they use a payment processor other than PayPal. PayPal will only end in misery and your money being lost.

abwizz 3y ago

"service channels" are not a thing anymore?

londons_explore 3y ago

> can't purchase There are certain high seas where such things are plentiful.

hospitalJail 3y ago
This is equally as dangerous.
- windowspiracy 3y ago
  Eh, not really. You can download a windows pro ISO straight from microsoft [0], install it, and then upgrade it to enterprise using the kms client key [1]. That can then be activated using an open source kms server emulator [2] that has a reasonable amount of code you can audit if you're extremely paranoid. If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing and then upgrading I'm also pretty sure you can upgrade one of the images in the wim offline using dism. 0: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (will serve you an iso directly instead of the media creation tool if you give it a linux user agent) 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started... 2: https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    Interesting. I do work on my windows machine, so doing anything illegal just gives me the opportunity to lose 1000x more money than if I just upgraded legally.
bruce343434 3y ago
With all that risk and effort, seriously why not just use linux?
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  https://www.protondb.com/explore https://www.protondb.com/explore Because most of this list is not Native or Platinum. Games on Windows just work. Also, how well does VR work in Linux these days?
  - gs17 3y ago
    VR on Linux depends on your headset mostly AFAIK. Oculus (Quest will work with ALVR streaming, but I had mixed results) and WMR require software that isn't on Linux. Valve Index supposedly has good support and VR games are playable with Proton.
  - kobalsky 3y ago
    > Also, how well does VR work in Linux these days? this loaded question should be directed towards the developers. that any Windows game works on Linux at all, given Microsoft's record regarding interoperability, seems like a miracle. If I had to make an equally loaded question I'd say, what OS are they using to host their game servers?
    - londons_explore 3y ago
      Game servers are fairly frequently hosted on Windows, simply because the game server often shares a lot of code with the client (including libraries which may not be cross platform), and game developers are often most familiar with Windows.
  - stOneskull 3y ago
    i don't know anymore. i'm getting really annoyed by background processes interfering with my counter-strike ping. like microsoft is checking my mail or uploading some telemetry bs or something. i can't wait to get back on linux.

TheSkyHasEyes 3y ago

Tiny11 is a thing but I've no experience with it. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tiny11 https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tiny11

nobody9999 3y ago

>The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked to just the enterprise and will likely never change.. Of course you can purchase "enterprise" versions of Windows 11[0]. What's more, anyone can purchase most of Microsoft's offerings for ~USD$1000[1]. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h4 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h... [1] https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/

ailurooo 3y ago
a license at 1000 is not a license that's purchasable for a normal consumer.. you may also need to sign a EA and this opens a can of worms. The point is that you normally can't obtain a enterprise license.
- nobody9999 3y ago
  >a license at 1000 is not a license that's purchasable for a normal consumer.. you may also need to sign a EA and this opens a can of worms. The point is that you normally can't obtain a enterprise license. That's just not true. cf. the link I posted[0]. Anyone can buy a Visual Studio Developer Subscription (formerly "Technet Library" and "MSDN" packages) (USD$1199.00) without an enterprise agreement with Microsoft. I've used it for many years and will continue to do so. And you don't need to renew it either (I'll generally do so every 5-7 years to get access to the latest stuff, but it's not necessary or required), especially since the software isn't "in the cloud" so you can have most of Microsoft's products (workstation and server) on local media. But if you think I (and the Microsoft subscription page) don't know what I'm talking about, feel free to ignore me. It's no skin off my nose. In fact, it's about time for me to go and do (for the fourth or fifth time) what you say I can't do. Thanks for reminding me! [0] https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ Edit: Fixed typo. added missing words.