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Windows Update did a better job over the years selling me on the Mac platform than Apple ever could

by FredPret 3y ago

metaltyphoon 3y ago
Funny enough, windows updates are infinitely better than macOS updates, which takes 30-60 mins each time.
- laserdancepony 3y ago
  I still don't know why both are so slow. Upgrading my mostly vanilla Devuan boxes costs me a few seconds to minutes and restarts are only to switch kernels.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  This was one of many gripes when I went from Android to iPhone. Holy crap, every day there was some necessary update and I had to sign into my apple ID + be plugged in at 2am or something. Every time I unlocked that phone it would bother me. That, a slower response time(might have been due to animations), not having widgets, and some buggy official apps like the podcast app, and I bailed from iPhone pretty quick. I admittedly was so excited to unbox and give Apple all my personal information. Weird.
  - culopatin 3y ago
    On androids you just don’t have this issue because manufacturers will stop giving you updates so quick that most of your experience with the device will be without them.
  - delfinom 3y ago
    Yea I own a iPhone for giggles and use a Pixel daily. HOLY CRAP, the update experience is so ridiculously slow on iPhones, I really don't Apple could not even try it fix it. How are iPhones not capable of having A/B partitions for the system to handle updates behind the scenes faster?
- jshier 3y ago
  They're getting faster in Ventura. Moving to the sealed system volume in macOS 11 made them huge and slow to apply, but they're getting better. On my M1 Ultra machine even large updates don't take more than 5 or 10 minutes in the restart stage, and that can include firmware updates for the Mac and monitor (Apple Studio Display). And now with the rapid security patches there are some updates you don't even have to restart to apply (mostly).
- FredPret 3y ago
  But they don't pop up a million times and then restart your system for you while you have a long compute job running overnight...
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
The sad thing is that IMO, Windows users brought the shitty Windows Update implementation on themselves. It was common in the Windows XP days for many users to never install updates and it really contributed to Windows's reputation for being incredibly insecure. Forcing updates became the only option to ensure Windows users remain secure.

Windows Update did a better job over the years selling me on the Mac platform than Apple ever could

metaltyphoon 3y ago

Funny enough, windows updates are infinitely better than macOS updates, which takes 30-60 mins each time.

laserdancepony 3y ago
I still don't know why both are so slow. Upgrading my mostly vanilla Devuan boxes costs me a few seconds to minutes and restarts are only to switch kernels.
hospitalJail 3y ago
This was one of many gripes when I went from Android to iPhone. Holy crap, every day there was some necessary update and I had to sign into my apple ID + be plugged in at 2am or something. Every time I unlocked that phone it would bother me. That, a slower response time(might have been due to animations), not having widgets, and some buggy official apps like the podcast app, and I bailed from iPhone pretty quick. I admittedly was so excited to unbox and give Apple all my personal information. Weird.
- culopatin 3y ago
  On androids you just don’t have this issue because manufacturers will stop giving you updates so quick that most of your experience with the device will be without them.
- delfinom 3y ago
  Yea I own a iPhone for giggles and use a Pixel daily. HOLY CRAP, the update experience is so ridiculously slow on iPhones, I really don't Apple could not even try it fix it. How are iPhones not capable of having A/B partitions for the system to handle updates behind the scenes faster?
jshier 3y ago
They're getting faster in Ventura. Moving to the sealed system volume in macOS 11 made them huge and slow to apply, but they're getting better. On my M1 Ultra machine even large updates don't take more than 5 or 10 minutes in the restart stage, and that can include firmware updates for the Mac and monitor (Apple Studio Display). And now with the rapid security patches there are some updates you don't even have to restart to apply (mostly).
FredPret 3y ago
But they don't pop up a million times and then restart your system for you while you have a long compute job running overnight...

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

The sad thing is that IMO, Windows users brought the shitty Windows Update implementation on themselves. It was common in the Windows XP days for many users to never install updates and it really contributed to Windows's reputation for being incredibly insecure. Forcing updates became the only option to ensure Windows users remain secure.