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Why? Because shipping trucks deliver food to the grocery stores. Our supply chains would collapse if we suddenly cannot produce trucks. I believe we’ll figure

by rank0 3y ago

Why? Because shipping trucks deliver food to the grocery stores. Our supply chains would collapse if we suddenly cannot produce trucks. I believe we’ll figure it out too. But banning the production of critical infrastructure without a working alternative is just plain dumb.

packetlost 3y ago
Fortunately for California, there's other states besides California to make up for their dumb decisions. Still sucks though.
- s5300 3y ago
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- eksx 3y ago
  I think the Yin and Yang in this case is very much needed. We need states to push forward while others are slower to adopt. This will allow us to test new things while also providing a fallback in case the plan doesn't work.
  - packetlost 3y ago
    That's, in principle, the purpose of the progressive/conservative dichotomy, no?
lesuorac 3y ago
Critical infrastructure isn't banned. The law doesn't take effect until 2036 so claiming that your grocery store is going to be empty is just fear mongering. It's not like car companies were required to make high efficiency cars (i.e. >40mpg) and didn't and then the requirements were relaxed. Like the law will be changed if it becomes unmeetable.
- rank0 3y ago
  Production of critical infrastructure WILL BE banned. Just because it’s in the future doesn’t mean it’s not a ban. I agree they’ll just repeal it if needed. What good does this law do then? So many people are relentlessly working on electric trucks for the financial incentive. The second order effects are unknown to me. California auto manufacturers are never gonna invest in improving ICE vehicles if they think it’s about to be illegal. We can see real life effects of policies like this during the recent oil shortage when demand far exceeded domestic refining capacity. Look at what happened to Germany and the EU because of their insane “environmentalist (but no nuclear)” policies. Legislators suck and should get out of the way of technological progress. /rant

by rank0 3y ago

packetlost 3y ago

Fortunately for California, there's other states besides California to make up for their dumb decisions. Still sucks though.

s5300 3y ago
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eksx 3y ago
I think the Yin and Yang in this case is very much needed. We need states to push forward while others are slower to adopt. This will allow us to test new things while also providing a fallback in case the plan doesn't work.
- packetlost 3y ago
  That's, in principle, the purpose of the progressive/conservative dichotomy, no?

lesuorac 3y ago

Critical infrastructure isn't banned. The law doesn't take effect until 2036 so claiming that your grocery store is going to be empty is just fear mongering. It's not like car companies were required to make high efficiency cars (i.e. >40mpg) and didn't and then the requirements were relaxed. Like the law will be changed if it becomes unmeetable.

rank0 3y ago
Production of critical infrastructure WILL BE banned. Just because it’s in the future doesn’t mean it’s not a ban. I agree they’ll just repeal it if needed. What good does this law do then? So many people are relentlessly working on electric trucks for the financial incentive. The second order effects are unknown to me. California auto manufacturers are never gonna invest in improving ICE vehicles if they think it’s about to be illegal. We can see real life effects of policies like this during the recent oil shortage when demand far exceeded domestic refining capacity. Look at what happened to Germany and the EU because of their insane “environmentalist (but no nuclear)” policies. Legislators suck and should get out of the way of technological progress. /rant