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So cops should kill every driver they suspect of being dangerous?

LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
Every driver who was fleeing at high speed through civilians, and who attempts to do it again, yes. Absolutely. It's literally the time they're supposed to shoot. I'll quote US law here because it's in English, but it's pretty much the same worldwide. > "1-16.200 - DEADLY FORCE - Law enforcement officers and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person." Fleeing wouldn't be enough, but fleeing in a car after reckless driving that already endangered civilians is.
- JamesLeonis 3y ago
  Were these men speeding through civilians or fleeing dangerously when they were shot? https://thegrio.com/2021/08/29/footage-of-police-shooting-man-who-was-asleep-gilmore/ https://thegrio.com/2021/08/29/footage-of-police-shooting-ma... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/12/willie-mccoy-shooting-vallejo-police-55-shots https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/12/willie-mccoy... Before you answer... Do you want others to make the same excuse as you if you were shot by the cops?
  - LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
    > Were these men speeding through civilians or fleeing dangerously when they were shot? No, the men in your stories were sleeping in their cars. One was shot 55 times. The driver in France had just been witnessed fleeing through civilian traffic and crosswalks. They saw him commit a crime and try to flee to continue risking others' lives. He was shot once, only when he tried to escape. What do you think these stories have in common? > Do you want others to make the same excuse as you if you were shot by the cops? If I was risking other people's lives by fleeing from police and used deadly force to try to escape, then yeah. It's not "an excuse", it's their literal job. They tried to detain him peacefully.
- ibejoeb 3y ago
  Additionally, he ran through the cop that was propped up on the hood and windshield of the car. We hear the engine rev up, and he accelerates away. It's egregious. For even more context, here's the specific relevant part of french law for this type of vehicular situation (https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000034107970 https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...) is: "les conducteurs n'obtempèrent pas à l'ordre d'arrêt et dont les occupants sont susceptibles de perpétrer, dans leur fuite, des atteintes à leur vie ou à leur intégrité physique ou à celles d'autru" meaning, "drivers do not comply with the stop order and whose occupants are likely to perpetrate, in their flight, harm to their lives or bodily injury or to those of others"

Every driver who was fleeing at high speed through civilians, and who attempts to do it again, yes. Absolutely. It's literally the time they're supposed to shoot. I'll quote US law here because it's in English, but it's pretty much the same worldwide. > "1-16.200 - DEADLY FORCE - Law enforcement officers and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person." Fleeing wouldn't be enough, but fleeing in a car after reckless driving that already endangered civilians is.

JamesLeonis 3y ago
Were these men speeding through civilians or fleeing dangerously when they were shot? https://thegrio.com/2021/08/29/footage-of-police-shooting-man-who-was-asleep-gilmore/ https://thegrio.com/2021/08/29/footage-of-police-shooting-ma... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/12/willie-mccoy-shooting-vallejo-police-55-shots https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/12/willie-mccoy... Before you answer... Do you want others to make the same excuse as you if you were shot by the cops?
- LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
  > Were these men speeding through civilians or fleeing dangerously when they were shot? No, the men in your stories were sleeping in their cars. One was shot 55 times. The driver in France had just been witnessed fleeing through civilian traffic and crosswalks. They saw him commit a crime and try to flee to continue risking others' lives. He was shot once, only when he tried to escape. What do you think these stories have in common? > Do you want others to make the same excuse as you if you were shot by the cops? If I was risking other people's lives by fleeing from police and used deadly force to try to escape, then yeah. It's not "an excuse", it's their literal job. They tried to detain him peacefully.
ibejoeb 3y ago
Additionally, he ran through the cop that was propped up on the hood and windshield of the car. We hear the engine rev up, and he accelerates away. It's egregious. For even more context, here's the specific relevant part of french law for this type of vehicular situation (https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000034107970 https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI0000...) is: "les conducteurs n'obtempèrent pas à l'ordre d'arrêt et dont les occupants sont susceptibles de perpétrer, dans leur fuite, des atteintes à leur vie ou à leur intégrité physique ou à celles d'autru" meaning, "drivers do not comply with the stop order and whose occupants are likely to perpetrate, in their flight, harm to their lives or bodily injury or to those of others"