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This is technology in general though. Technology first benefits the rich and causes people to lose their jobs, but then in the next generation, people get diffe

This is technology in general though. Technology first benefits the rich and causes people to lose their jobs, but then in the next generation, people get different jobs and everyone’s life is better. Technology is a double edge sword in every way.

haxiomic 3y ago
Coming from genuine curiosity, what jobs don’t compete with an AI that’s designed to mimic and surpass human capability?
- kaashif 3y ago
  It seems like it would be hard to automate being a plumber or electrician, AI isn't really being aimed at that problem. Jobs which are specifically about being a human seem like they can't be automated, like actors, waiters, athletes, sex workers. I sincerely doubt anyone would watch or care about fake AI generated sports.
  - mholm 3y ago
    It strikes me that we don't have 7 billion available jobs centered around being human
  - B1FF_PSUVM 3y ago
    > watch or care about fake AI generated sports Well, people pay for fake sports, and pay for fiction (i.e. fake stories) in movies/TV/books. Not much of a stretch that a competent AI could generate good enough content, given the sludge currently making money out there ...
- varelse 3y ago
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delusional 3y ago
You're engaging with it as though AI is actually going to revolutionize jobs. I think that's highly unlikely. What AI is likely to do is distract people from the continued accumulation of wealth and power. Reinforce the notion that it's "fair" (everyone else can be automated after all). And provide a cap to your wages (if the machine could do it with 50 MWh of power, then your salary will logically have to be lower than that, even if the machine doesn't actually exist YET).
- thrashh 3y ago
  How does that not describe every technology? The cotton loom didn’t present itself as a means of accumulating wealth and power, but yet it did. Why would you pay a group of people that much to weave when a cotton loom can do the work of 10? Anything that makes things easier will reduce the number of jobs.
MSFT_Edging 3y ago
With climate change coming up fast, we won't really have time for a comfy "next generation" if we keep up our current path.
rurp 3y ago
I think it's too broad to classify all technology this way since their are stark differences between various tools. Smart phones improved billions of lives and displaced a relatively small number of jobs. Global shipping routes decimated hundreds of towns and cities, many of which still haven't recovered decades later, with 90% of the benefits going to 1% of the population. There are massive ranges possible on the winner and loser sides of any new technology equation. I'd argue that widespread AI will cause broad harm and very concentrated gains, which I think will be very bad for society on the whole.

haxiomic 3y ago

Coming from genuine curiosity, what jobs don’t compete with an AI that’s designed to mimic and surpass human capability?

kaashif 3y ago
It seems like it would be hard to automate being a plumber or electrician, AI isn't really being aimed at that problem. Jobs which are specifically about being a human seem like they can't be automated, like actors, waiters, athletes, sex workers. I sincerely doubt anyone would watch or care about fake AI generated sports.
- mholm 3y ago
  It strikes me that we don't have 7 billion available jobs centered around being human
- B1FF_PSUVM 3y ago
  > watch or care about fake AI generated sports Well, people pay for fake sports, and pay for fiction (i.e. fake stories) in movies/TV/books. Not much of a stretch that a competent AI could generate good enough content, given the sludge currently making money out there ...
varelse 3y ago
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delusional 3y ago

You're engaging with it as though AI is actually going to revolutionize jobs. I think that's highly unlikely. What AI is likely to do is distract people from the continued accumulation of wealth and power. Reinforce the notion that it's "fair" (everyone else can be automated after all). And provide a cap to your wages (if the machine could do it with 50 MWh of power, then your salary will logically have to be lower than that, even if the machine doesn't actually exist YET).

thrashh 3y ago
How does that not describe every technology? The cotton loom didn’t present itself as a means of accumulating wealth and power, but yet it did. Why would you pay a group of people that much to weave when a cotton loom can do the work of 10? Anything that makes things easier will reduce the number of jobs.

MSFT_Edging 3y ago

With climate change coming up fast, we won't really have time for a comfy "next generation" if we keep up our current path.

rurp 3y ago

I think it's too broad to classify all technology this way since their are stark differences between various tools. Smart phones improved billions of lives and displaced a relatively small number of jobs. Global shipping routes decimated hundreds of towns and cities, many of which still haven't recovered decades later, with 90% of the benefits going to 1% of the population. There are massive ranges possible on the winner and loser sides of any new technology equation. I'd argue that widespread AI will cause broad harm and very concentrated gains, which I think will be very bad for society on the whole.