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These idiots are so blinded by hatred don't see all of the free advertising being given to those they hate the most, which feeds into their enemies growing and

These idiots are so blinded by hatred don't see all of the free advertising being given to those they hate the most, which feeds into their enemies growing and becoming more popular.

rsynnott 3y ago
> don't see all of the free advertising being given to those they hate the most This generally only washes where either the subject matter is obscure, or where the subject has a message that they want to broadcast for free (you could argue that Donald Trump has done well out of the latter principle; the media spent years effectively promoting his nonsense because it got more clicks than normal politics). However, I can guarantee you that everyone who reads The Atlantic is well aware of the existence of both Twitter and Elon Musk, so the "free advertising" thing doesn't really make much sense here.
3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
That was the case until recently. But now next time Musk poops all over Twitter, people have Threads to run to.
- infamouscow 3y ago
  Wasn't Mastodon supposed to do that? Meta has been around almost as long as Twitter and couldn't compete with Twitter during the heyday of new social networks. What makes you so confident they can succeed when they have a history of consistently dropped the ball to other social networks like TikTok and Twitter?
  - 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
    Friction. Mastodon has a lot of it, and Threads has almost none. Also Mastodon did attract many technical users who stayed on it. Twitter's death was always going to be death by thousands of papercuts. But Threads is a legit knife to the heart. As a closed-source centralized platform they can innovate quickly and address user concerns, something Mastodon can't do.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    > What makes you so confident they can succeed when they have a history of consistently dropped the ball to other social networks like TikTok and Twitter? Elon. He's a tool, and everyone on Twitter knows it. Everyone from the bottom-of-the-barrel conservative free speech commentators to the pie-in-the-sky trust fund liberals. I'm not very fond of Mark Zuckerberg either, but at least he's capable of waking up in the morning and not sending C&Ds to his competitors out of desperation. He just shows up, puts on a friendly face and offers everything that Twitter refuses to.
- housemusicfan 3y ago
  Remember the time Meta broke their network so badly they locked themselves out of the building? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    It would almost be embarrassing if Twitter didn't have weekly issues relating to... checks clipboard ...scaling an RPC architecture.
    - housemusicfan 3y ago
      Everyone acts as if Twitter pre-Musk was a well oiled machine that shit the bed overnight after he took over; it wasn't. The truth slowly emerged, their infrastructure was built on a cavalcade of cruft held together with duct tape. How everyone conveniently forgot the fail whale and memory holed it for all time. I remember they failed their security audit so badly didn't the CISO quit? I give the guy credit for at least trying new things and fixing long standing bugs and absent features.
      - rsynnott 3y ago
        I've been on Twitter for 16 years (though since the ascension of Naughty Old Mr Car, it's been a placeholder account; I'd quite like to hold onto the username in case he gets bored and divests, but I don't actively use it anymore). Granted, for the first few years, say until the early tens, it was extremely unreliable, but since then it was mostly fairly solid, and any prolonged Twitter downtime was big news. Over the last year, well, it's had... more downtime.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        For sure. For the first decade of Twitter's operation, it was truly mind-boggling how clueless Dorsey was. Towards the end of his tenure, he was funding so many batshit ideas that he may have surpassed Elon's trajectory if given the chance. Elon deserves credit for trying to fix stuff. Then he deserves to watch that credit get chastised away for his consummate failure as CEO of Twitter. Preeminent technical failures be damned, his involvement in Twitter at all is a mistake and his continued involvement is only making things worse. As a non-Twitter user I don't have much emotionally invested in the platform, but it's obvious that he's (somehow) a worse steward than Dorsey was. If only for the simple fact that Musk thought Twitter could survive without a ground-up rewrite and Dorsey disagreed.

These idiots are so blinded by hatred don't see all of the free advertising being given to those they hate the most, which feeds into their enemies growing and becoming more popular.

rsynnott 3y ago

> don't see all of the free advertising being given to those they hate the most This generally only washes where either the subject matter is obscure, or where the subject has a message that they want to broadcast for free (you could argue that Donald Trump has done well out of the latter principle; the media spent years effectively promoting his nonsense because it got more clicks than normal politics). However, I can guarantee you that everyone who reads The Atlantic is well aware of the existence of both Twitter and Elon Musk, so the "free advertising" thing doesn't really make much sense here.

3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago

That was the case until recently. But now next time Musk poops all over Twitter, people have Threads to run to.

infamouscow 3y ago
Wasn't Mastodon supposed to do that? Meta has been around almost as long as Twitter and couldn't compete with Twitter during the heyday of new social networks. What makes you so confident they can succeed when they have a history of consistently dropped the ball to other social networks like TikTok and Twitter?
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y ago
  Friction. Mastodon has a lot of it, and Threads has almost none. Also Mastodon did attract many technical users who stayed on it. Twitter's death was always going to be death by thousands of papercuts. But Threads is a legit knife to the heart. As a closed-source centralized platform they can innovate quickly and address user concerns, something Mastodon can't do.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > What makes you so confident they can succeed when they have a history of consistently dropped the ball to other social networks like TikTok and Twitter? Elon. He's a tool, and everyone on Twitter knows it. Everyone from the bottom-of-the-barrel conservative free speech commentators to the pie-in-the-sky trust fund liberals. I'm not very fond of Mark Zuckerberg either, but at least he's capable of waking up in the morning and not sending C&Ds to his competitors out of desperation. He just shows up, puts on a friendly face and offers everything that Twitter refuses to.
housemusicfan 3y ago
Remember the time Meta broke their network so badly they locked themselves out of the building? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  It would almost be embarrassing if Twitter didn't have weekly issues relating to... checks clipboard ...scaling an RPC architecture.
  - housemusicfan 3y ago
    Everyone acts as if Twitter pre-Musk was a well oiled machine that shit the bed overnight after he took over; it wasn't. The truth slowly emerged, their infrastructure was built on a cavalcade of cruft held together with duct tape. How everyone conveniently forgot the fail whale and memory holed it for all time. I remember they failed their security audit so badly didn't the CISO quit? I give the guy credit for at least trying new things and fixing long standing bugs and absent features.
    - rsynnott 3y ago
      I've been on Twitter for 16 years (though since the ascension of Naughty Old Mr Car, it's been a placeholder account; I'd quite like to hold onto the username in case he gets bored and divests, but I don't actively use it anymore). Granted, for the first few years, say until the early tens, it was extremely unreliable, but since then it was mostly fairly solid, and any prolonged Twitter downtime was big news. Over the last year, well, it's had... more downtime.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      For sure. For the first decade of Twitter's operation, it was truly mind-boggling how clueless Dorsey was. Towards the end of his tenure, he was funding so many batshit ideas that he may have surpassed Elon's trajectory if given the chance. Elon deserves credit for trying to fix stuff. Then he deserves to watch that credit get chastised away for his consummate failure as CEO of Twitter. Preeminent technical failures be damned, his involvement in Twitter at all is a mistake and his continued involvement is only making things worse. As a non-Twitter user I don't have much emotionally invested in the platform, but it's obvious that he's (somehow) a worse steward than Dorsey was. If only for the simple fact that Musk thought Twitter could survive without a ground-up rewrite and Dorsey disagreed.