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In the U.S. education isn't a right. It's a product you buy. Similar to clean water, healthcare, justice, and lower taxes. These are all products. You pay more
by cmurf 3y ago
In the U.S. education isn't a right. It's a product you buy. Similar to clean water, healthcare, justice, and lower taxes. These are all products. You pay more for better versions. Public versions shouldn't exist, or should be inferior. Why be wealthy if you can't have better things? Especially since wealthy people are simply better.
This is old school Conservatism since before the founding of the country. There is no convincing conservatives that they have any obligation to the public. Money is a means to separate themselves from the public. There's a lot more in common here with feudalism than anything modern or enlightened.
I'm willing to bet more often than not, any expulsion should be applied to the parents. i.e. they are the problem, and the kid is acting out. Punishing the kid has long been a proxy for punishing parents. A more sophisticated system identifies this and gives more (with strings attached) privileges and responsibilities to problem kids. Not in every case. But certainly don't have policies that increase contact between problem kids and bad parents. Where are they learning most of their coping mechanisms? Get them away from bad influences as much as possible.
- vacuity 3y agoI don't think the public school system is bad (mainly) because of bias in conservatives to favor private schools. As for your last paragraph, it seems like a logistical nightmare. How will the kids be cared for and educated away from their parents? I agree with the premise (to put it crudely, fix situations where kids have terrible parents) but I'm not sure this is workable.
- cmurf 3y agoIt's metaphorical. You don't literally expel the parents. Provide more and more diverse extracurricular activities. Even when schools aren't providing those activities they can make students and parents aware of them. Perhaps school boards could be convinced some kids need compulsory activities. If they can have the power to expel, they can have the power to do mitigation.
- jgeada 3y agoExpelling difficult kids has the nice property of aligning those parent's interests with everyone else's. If you have a difficult kid, right now if you don't handle the problem it becomes everyone else's problem but you're not affected. If the difficult kid gets expelled, now it is solely your problem. It only takes a few cases for parents of difficult kids to become extremely interested in the behavior of their kids and educating them on what proper behavior should be. As it should be.
- vacuity 3y agoI'm not sure that actually puts pressure on the parents to be better. I think that decent parents generally raise decent kids because they're good role models, and the opposite for bad parents. There are exceptions, but I wouldn't rely on it. If a bad parent suddenly has to be fully responsible, I doubt they'll suddenly have a change of heart and be able to change the kid's behavior (depending on how old the kid is).
- vacuity 3y agoIf the parents are just a bit misguided, that could help greatly. I'm concerned that terrible parents would still have much influence over the development of their kids, perhaps even pulling them out of those extracurriculars.