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> Why not make public schools better? It'd be nice if you could explicitly define how that would work. I can understand some ideas not working 100% of the time

> Why not make public schools better? It'd be nice if you could explicitly define how that would work. I can understand some ideas not working 100% of the time, but throwing money into black holes where nothing comes out is an insult to taxpayers. Baltimore [City] has been the clearest example. I believe we're around $25k a head in a seat so far there. At what number specifically do you think all that gets turned around? $50k? $100k? If you can't answer that, why should anyone give a shit about what you think is good for society, demanding everyone pay into ponzi schemes like Baltimore? If you refuse to answer that, then you are out of your depth completely and you have no basis for making or influencing policy decisions. It's far too easy to use other people's money and then wring your hands about not getting the results you advertised. edit: [City] need to discriminate between Baltimore county and Baltimore city here since there may be eventual confusion on school system ratings

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
So, you need an explicit policy plan and how to implement it, but you can take one cherry picked example from Baltimore to justify turning the US into a Taliban style theocracy?
- latency-guy2 3y ago
  > So, you need an explicit policy plan and how to implement it Yes? That's how things work everywhere in the world. I'd like $50 billion and the biggest yacht in the world, I don't plan on doing anything to get either of those things, so magically, they will appear to me as soon as I walk out the door in 20 minutes. > but you can take one cherry picked example from Baltimore to justify turning the US into a Taliban style theocracy? I don't think I addressed religion once until just now, so this is coming out of left field to say the least. But since you want to be hyperbolic about things I never said, I'll imagine your ideas are no more than theft and money laundering. I suppose that's the end of this discussion.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    Joke? This whole thread is about religion. People are arguing that they need Private Schools so they can have the 'choice' to indoctrinate their kids into their specific religion. And because public schools 'bad', religious schools 'good’, They feel justified in taking public funds, to support those religious schools. This breaks the separation of church and state. Think this is the old “I Require more proof from you, than I provide” argument. No, posting an entire policy and implementation plan to reform the education system, is not commonly done in internet arguments with trolls. Neither have you provided any detailed analysis of your point. I venture to say, the rest of the world does NOT make their policy decision based on something posted in an online argument.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago

So, you need an explicit policy plan and how to implement it, but you can take one cherry picked example from Baltimore to justify turning the US into a Taliban style theocracy?

latency-guy2 3y ago
> So, you need an explicit policy plan and how to implement it Yes? That's how things work everywhere in the world. I'd like $50 billion and the biggest yacht in the world, I don't plan on doing anything to get either of those things, so magically, they will appear to me as soon as I walk out the door in 20 minutes. > but you can take one cherry picked example from Baltimore to justify turning the US into a Taliban style theocracy? I don't think I addressed religion once until just now, so this is coming out of left field to say the least. But since you want to be hyperbolic about things I never said, I'll imagine your ideas are no more than theft and money laundering. I suppose that's the end of this discussion.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  Joke? This whole thread is about religion. People are arguing that they need Private Schools so they can have the 'choice' to indoctrinate their kids into their specific religion. And because public schools 'bad', religious schools 'good’, They feel justified in taking public funds, to support those religious schools. This breaks the separation of church and state. Think this is the old “I Require more proof from you, than I provide” argument. No, posting an entire policy and implementation plan to reform the education system, is not commonly done in internet arguments with trolls. Neither have you provided any detailed analysis of your point. I venture to say, the rest of the world does NOT make their policy decision based on something posted in an online argument.