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Anecdotally, I did. At least, I am no longer buying 400L of oil for my furnace every month, and our cars are cheap(ish) EVs. So at least for direct oil usa

• wkat4242 3y ago
  And all the plastics you use?
• LatteLazy 3y ago
  My friend. For everyone like you, there are 2 people in China and another in India who JUST got rich enough to buy their first (low mpg / kpl) vehicle :(
  • ericd 3y ago
    From what I can tell, it seems like the Chinese are doing a pretty good job making EVs affordable for their populace. And you’d be stunned at the huge numbers of e-bikes/scooters they’ve been using for the last decade+. Swarms of those things, almost silent. It’s pretty cool to witness.
    • LatteLazy 3y ago
      In Mao's time everyone got a bike, and that was a huge advance. Today everyone get's a car. Some might be EVs (fueled by coal power) but others are not. And every year world CO2e emissions go up. And every day we pretend it's ok because it went up by less that it would have if we had put it up even more. But we need them to come down, not just go up less quickly. And we needed that in 2000. Not "we might manage it in 2030".
  • acdha 3y ago
    I get the temptation of doom porn but progress is progress: there’s no world in which people who could be polluting instead going electric is worse. I would also look at both the rise of cheap EVs and the size of the ICEs people outside of rich western countries are buying. American SUVs are an outlier caused by heavy subsidies but the cost of buying and operating them is prohibitive in many places, not to mention narrow roads and storage cutting into the appeal. There’s a reason why you see so many cool cars only available outside of the U.S. market and most of them get whole number multiples better mileage than the median American vehicle.
    • LatteLazy 3y ago
      Every year emissions go up when we need them to stop. Then we congratulate ourselves. And I am a doom munger when all I see is hopium.