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Macron used the words "video games" and that makes him sound like a fool because the correlation between video games and actual violence is nil. But, I do thin
by SkipperCat 3y ago
Macron used the words "video games" and that makes him sound like a fool because the correlation between video games and actual violence is nil.
But, I do think he and other people are trying to make a point that there is a lot of content on the web which is horrifying, and sadly young people learn by example. Watching constant reels of people acting awful to each other desensitizes us against engaging in bad behavior.
IMHO, all the garbage videos I see of people doing "pranks" (which are often low grade violence against strangers) just make impressionable teens and young adults feel is is OK do engage in that sort of behavior - especially when it becomes gamified by getting Internet/social media points.
And this is where TikTok comes into play. Scott Galloway makes the argument that China is using TikTok to push a lot of this negative content into America with the effort to cause instability. They are also only pushing highly positive content inside China to bolster "healthy" social interaction. I'm not sure I can say this is 100% truthful, but anecdotally it seems correct.
- drcongo 3y agoWhy are you watching these videos?
- SkipperCat 3y agoFair question. I don't actively seek it out but I come across a bit of it on Reddit. Sad to say, its engaging on a primal level, much like how people slow down to view a car crash when they're driving by. I used to browse the subreddit r/trashy which at first I found funny, but then after seeing the content for a while, I realized its just making fun of people or showing me examples of Confederate racists. I do like r/tiktokcringe because there is a lot of good hearted humorous content, but there too, you see examples of people being jerks.
- drcongo 3y agoThanks for answering. I asked as someone who hates Reddit, YouTube, Instagram and TikTok so genuinely never sees any of this stuff.
- mcpackieh 3y ago> like how people slow down to view a car crash when they're driving by. Or they slow down because the crash causes them to doubt the condition of the road; there may be debris strewn around they need to avoid. A lane may be closed too. When a road is saturated to capacity, anything that gets people to slow down a little bit will cause a chain reaction that snowballs into a full traffic jam. Even slight perturbations without lane closures can cause traffic jams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wm-pZp_mi0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wm-pZp_mi0
- epups 3y ago> IMHO, all the garbage videos I see of people doing "pranks" (which are often low grade violence against strangers) just make impressionable teens and young adults feel is is OK do engage in that sort of behavior I'm sorry but this is not a factual statement. Violence among the youth has actually decreased sharply since videogames were introduced, and I'm absolutely not convinced that the current red scare (tiktok) is any different.
- constantcrying 3y agoWhat has increased are suicides, especially among girls. Which is something I actually would blame social media for.
- zeroonetwothree 3y agoMale teen suicides were higher in 1990 than today. It’s true that females are higher today but rates are still well below males.
- constantcrying 3y agoWhy would virtual depictions of murder and violence have zero effect, but real people being mean to each other cause a complete breakdown of the social order (at least for short amount of time)? As far as I know (and from my person experience video games do not cause violence, but desensitization to depictions of violence. Here it is probabbly the exact same, but instead of violence it is depictions of anti-social behaviour.
- Kinrany 3y agoBecause people can tell if the victim is a real person or a video game character. Being desensitized to depictions of violence is not the same as being desensitized to human suffering. It's really elitist and condescending to pretend that regular people somehow can't tell the difference.
- constantcrying 3y ago>Being desensitized to depictions of violence is not the same as being desensitized to human suffering. And? >It's really elitist and condescending to pretend that regular people somehow can't tell the difference. Did you reply to the wrong post?
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- ImAnAmateur 3y agoThere is a world of difference between fiction and non-fiction.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoI really think probably the US and France both need to take responsibility for the situations they have created inside themselves rather than blame china. Whatever effect tiktok could be having is minuscule compared to the raw effects of generations of explicitly racist economic policies. Ruthless self-interest is a cultural value of the US! China didn't make it so. At the very very most, something like you're talking about could only be an intentional trigger to an already-present instability.
- aodonnell2536 3y agoI would argue that the influence Tiktok has over Western youth is a far more prescient threat than that of racist economic policies. Present day is is literally the least racist time in all of history in Western countries, the opportunities are endless for minority populations who immigrated in recent decades. Tiktok, on the other hand, is quickly eroding the moral fabric that Western society was built on and is necessary for a functioning and productive society Edit: Also not to mention the national security concerns (for all Western countries, USA, and EU countries) of forking over mass amounts of your civilians user data to probably your number one (or two, I guess, depending on who you ask) geopolitical opposition
- giraffe_lady 3y agoNext time I visit the local jail that is almost all black and hispanic I'll remind them about the endless opportunities. Thanks for the lesson.
- hollywoodsnow 3y agoWe used to sell opium to China, now they sell us Fentanyl. We used to polute their minds with Hollywood, not they send us Tik Tok. I would say they are also using shopping sites like Temu and their advertising to annihilate the American mind. What's left of it, I presume.
- gsatic 3y agoYou don't need China to do that. American corporate robots have been doing it on autopilot for decades.
- docandrew 3y agoI can’t confirm it, but read that in China, TikTok feeds are much different - its all stuff like Khan Academy videos and videos about becoming an astronaut, etc.
- kelipso 3y agoI'm pretty sure it's because the government enforces more restricted content to children. The company will do anything to increase engagement given the restrictions, but in the US there are no such restrictions.
- Foobar8568 3y agoBecause it feeds what ever is popular,most created etc. Most kids have a pressure to be good at school, not to date the hot girl /guy at school. So it creates social craziness in college and boardinghouse but that's another matter.
- constantcrying 3y agoAbsolutely. But blaming China as some unstopable force is just lazy and of course change starts with accepting your own fault in this.
- WillPostForFood 3y agoWe used to sell opium to China, now they sell us Fentanyl. This is a pretty sloppy use of "we". The United Kingdom is a separate country on a different continent with a seperate history of wrongdoing. It is like justifying a trade war with China on Pearl Harbor.
- mark_l_watson 3y agoI think you are 100% right about TikTok. I think it is planned.
- eunos 3y ago> And this is where TikTok comes into play. Scott Galloway makes the argument that China is using TikTok to push a lot of this negative content into America with the effort to cause instability. They are also only pushing highly positive content inside China to bolster "healthy" social interaction. I'm not sure I can say this is 100% truthful, but anecdotally it seems correct. Lmao, TikTok is the most censored social media in the West. Creators frequently need to use ridiculous synonym like unalive instead of death (wtf!). If I recall correctly even Vox censored the word suicide when similar video uploaded to Youtube isn't censored.
- hiatus 3y agoYour comment does not at all seem to negate your parent. A heavily censored experience is what I would expect if pushing content of any bent (positive or negative) were the point.
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- yardie 3y agoI listen to quite a lot of Scott Galloway and my takeaway from listening to him online is outside of tech and finance he doesn't know shit about jack. Even in the west unemployment is still quite high for >25yo. He believes the US should have national service similar to Israel, yet dances right around the apartheid that makes mandatory service necessary. Also, he's rich, if shit hit the fan I'm fairly certain it won't be his own kids on the frontline. It's quite easy to demand commitment from other people you wouldn't voluntarily do yourself.