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I went to a Catholic one of these. World religion was a double edged sword. If you're born a Muslim and are a good Muslim you go to heaven. But it's better to "
by cmurf 3y ago
I went to a Catholic one of these. World religion was a double edged sword. If you're born a Muslim and are a good Muslim you go to heaven. But it's better to "upgrade" by converting to Catholicism.
That's what we were taught. Including the inferiority of evangelical Christianity. i.e. belief in Christ as a deity and your redeemer, isn't good enough to get you into heaven. You have to do good works.
I have every confidence religious schools teach the superiority of their religion. With a white Jesus on a cross. It's not Jewish and Muslim schools pushing for public money without strings attached into private schools. It's Christian schools.
Well maybe there will come a time once again when folks understand Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists, from which we get the wall of separation between church and state phrase. It is in the letter from the Danbury Baptists we see what they were worried about. It wasn't Jews, Muslims, atheists, or anti-religionists. They were worried about the Danbury Congregationalists.
Christians are not on the same page, is an understatement. They really aren't all on the same book either. It's impossible to promote them all the same. And they will not and should not permit dissimilar promotion.
The only sane solution to preserving freedom of religion is to also preserve freedom from it. The government must only promote secularism. Everything else is playing with fire.
- brightball 3y ago> The only sane solution to preserving freedom of religion is to also preserve freedom from it. The government must only promote secularism. Everything else is playing with fire. There's nothing about vouchers that prevents the creation of secular private schools. Religious schools that you have no choice but to attend are very, very different than religious schools that your parents choose for you because they think it's the best place for your education.
- cmurf 3y agoGovernment providing $1 to a religious private school is finding favor in that particular religion. Since Christian schools are more common than any other, public funding in any amount is the state promoting that religion above others. A possible work around is the state donates $x to each registered religious organization in that state. Every group gets an equal amount. John Rawls "veil of ignorance" thought experiment applies here.
- brightball 3y agoTechnically, non-Christian public schools are more common than any other now. You need to look at the inverse of this though. If people want to be able to ensure that people without the financial means to participate cannot attend, all they'll need to do is attach a religious label to the school and that will ensure that the funds aren't able to be accepted. Creating an exclusivity by proxy. The other issue is the assumption that public funds aren't supporting any religion already. This is a loop hole by claiming that a religion doesn't have an actual deity and therefore is exempt. Meaning, you can teach anything you want as long as there wasn't a deity involved. Mindfulness, for example, comes from Buddhism but is widely encouraged in public schools. It's only allowed because it doesn't claim a deity. The "Church of Satan" goes out of it's way to claim they don't believe in any god. Hedonism goes back to the days of ancient fertility cults that were typically associated with some type of idol worship, but as long as you don't publicize the idol it passes the "no deity" test. The "veil of ignorance" definitely covers use cases along with this. There are a lot of parents who are very aware that belief systems are being taught in schools, deity or no.
- vacuity 3y agoSeems like a stretch to say that the "mindfulness" that schools teach is remotely promoting Buddhism. If that's the extent of "belief systems...being taught in schools", I'm not concerned.