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Why? They have a fixed budget after all.

suprfsat 3y ago
And those GPT-3.5 calls ain't cheap.
marginalia_nu 3y ago
Because they're very much the victims of web designers with the same mindset, and if anyone should be the ones to recognize how unfair throwing minority user groups under the bus can be. It also doesn't really make strategic sense to focus on the lowest common denominator. Chrome already has that group. The one place they could eke out a loyal userbase is specifically the users that Chrome fails to capture because they have unusual needs or requirements.
- marginalia_nu 3y ago
  Actually when I think about it, it's even worse than this. Firefox has been on the receiving end of this type of discrimination more or less for as long as it's existed. It was the state of affairs when IE was the challenger too. You have to be just mindbogglingly oblivious to not see how this has been one of their biggest problems the last 20 years.
rcxdude 3y ago
In addition, this kind of thinking will attrit some of those 5% of users, so repeated application will shrink their market share even further. it's the excel problem: a huge number of features will only be used by a minority of users, but a majority of users use at least one of those features.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  With that logic you could say that 95% of users could keep leaving because you keep focusing on the minority use cases. Would you rather attrite a fraction of 95% of your users or a fraction of 5% of your users.
  - rcxdude 3y ago
    see the second half of my comment. You may lose 5% of your users with one particular removal, but if you keep doing it you'll lose most of them.
    - charcircuit 3y ago
      Did you read my comment? If we had to remove one of two features and one of them was used by 5% of users and one of them was used by 95% of users wouldn't you like to know which one is which? Without data you can invest your time into the wrong features.
      - rcxdude 3y ago
        or, you could not remove features
        charcircuit 3y ago
        You were the one that brought up removing features.
soundnote 3y ago
They spent some of that budget on getting a freaking sneaker designer to make time-limited theme colo-- sorry, time-limited colorways and did a bunch of popups and cringe copy on it. Meanwhile, Brave's vertical tabs were done by a single developer.

And those GPT-3.5 calls ain't cheap.

Because they're very much the victims of web designers with the same mindset, and if anyone should be the ones to recognize how unfair throwing minority user groups under the bus can be. It also doesn't really make strategic sense to focus on the lowest common denominator. Chrome already has that group. The one place they could eke out a loyal userbase is specifically the users that Chrome fails to capture because they have unusual needs or requirements.

marginalia_nu 3y ago
Actually when I think about it, it's even worse than this. Firefox has been on the receiving end of this type of discrimination more or less for as long as it's existed. It was the state of affairs when IE was the challenger too. You have to be just mindbogglingly oblivious to not see how this has been one of their biggest problems the last 20 years.

rcxdude 3y ago

In addition, this kind of thinking will attrit some of those 5% of users, so repeated application will shrink their market share even further. it's the excel problem: a huge number of features will only be used by a minority of users, but a majority of users use at least one of those features.

charcircuit 3y ago
With that logic you could say that 95% of users could keep leaving because you keep focusing on the minority use cases. Would you rather attrite a fraction of 95% of your users or a fraction of 5% of your users.
- rcxdude 3y ago
  see the second half of my comment. You may lose 5% of your users with one particular removal, but if you keep doing it you'll lose most of them.
  - charcircuit 3y ago
    Did you read my comment? If we had to remove one of two features and one of them was used by 5% of users and one of them was used by 95% of users wouldn't you like to know which one is which? Without data you can invest your time into the wrong features.
    - rcxdude 3y ago
      or, you could not remove features
      - charcircuit 3y ago
        You were the one that brought up removing features.

soundnote 3y ago

They spent some of that budget on getting a freaking sneaker designer to make time-limited theme colo-- sorry, time-limited colorways and did a bunch of popups and cringe copy on it. Meanwhile, Brave's vertical tabs were done by a single developer.