> What I said is far closer to the truth than the picture you’re trying to paint. Sure, and the earth is flat too. > Donbas and Strelkov and Motorola are not

> What I said is far closer to the truth than the picture you’re trying to paint. Sure, and the earth is flat too. > Donbas and Strelkov and Motorola are not the same as “little green men” in Crimea. No, but they were both in Donbass, both Russian soldiers or intelligence officers and at least Strelkov admits that real Russian soldiers were in Donbass in 2014. > he stats you cited are comparable to stuff that routinely happens in the US and other countries, NOT an armed invasion like in Iraq or Libya. Not even close. Yeah but your claim wasn't about an armed invasion it was literally this. >> > Next, you conflate Donbas and Crimea. Russians had “little green men” in Crimea. They were allowed to have 25K troops there, according ti an agreement with Ukraine, but the “little green men” is just another red herring. They didn’t shoot or kill anyone. This isn't true, they did shoot and kill people. > That’s what we SHOULD focus on preventing, instead of blame games. We should and as Russia has made it clear the only way to prevent Russian aggression is a boot on their neck or a rope around their throat. So we have to arm Ukraine enough to make Russia withdraw. > As far as “vacationers”, um USA had PMCs in Iraq, all over the place for years, but claimed “no boots ok the ground” and “end of operations”. And by your standard, what do you call US army vets fighting in Ukraine right now? Are they “NATO boots on the ground”? These weren't PMC's they where active duty Russian solders in Ukraine on "vacation". There are no active duty foreign nationals taking part in the Ukraine conflict on the Ukrainian side. Theres only veterans who are no longer part of foreign armies. I just wonder if you are ever going to respond with out trying to include an example of America doing the same thing in every single paragraph. In fact in these threads about Russia, and Russian aggression in Ukraine you talk a lot more about American then Russia.