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None of them plugged into your TV and worked nearly as well as a non-portable console. Neither did the old handhelds allow you to play two player on the same ha

None of them plugged into your TV and worked nearly as well as a non-portable console. Neither did the old handhelds allow you to play two player on the same handheld on the go. Not to mention it pretty much allows you to play AAA games on the online from anywhere you can hold the thing. There’s no shortage of innovation or exceptional execution with the Switch. The history of handheld gaming pretty much is Nintendo. I fully realize the history (and recognize the innovation. That is the Switch). I had the original Gameboy back when it was a new product in the 80s.

kaba0 3y ago
I don’t know, these doesn’t sound too innovative to me, just the results of the advancements hardware made.
- BuckRogers 3y ago
  Talk is cheap. Executing a complex product like the Switch is difficult. My guess is that 99% of the people posting here can’t even envision the product that comes after the Switch and makes such a large impact. And they did not envision the Switch either. Even though now it seems obvious because someone more creative already did it. There’s an easy way to prove me wrong. Create the next Switch and become a billionaire. It’s that easy.
  - kaba0 3y ago
    Come on, do you honestly claim that “let’s add a way to connect small screen to big screen” is some grandiose innovation?! That’s definitely a part of a product, but depending on the specifics it might be trivial/not the most important part compared to, say, the actual implementation. Also, let’s not start with this nonsense of “become a billionaire, it only needs that good idea” bullshit. Sure, give me all the connections and resources to actually be able to even play at that league. That’s just a cheap way to shut down the other.
    - BuckRogers 3y ago
      You could take that position. It's like mocking the light bulb though as hardly innovative because torches got the same thing done. I get what you're saying, but I think the key point is execution of an idea. If it were so obvious and so easy, someone other than Nintendo or Apple would actually get it done once every few decades. The billionaire argument isn't bs. If you actually had a great idea, or knew how to execute things well, you'd have either patents or products under your belt. It's just incredibly difficult to execute an idea in the real world. Most people, 99%, don't even have a good idea. The whole thing seems like if you "just had connections and resources" you could do it. But you wouldn't be able to. Most people actually do less with connections and resources. What would your grand idea be? Buy rental apartments? You certainly aren't going to be taking on Twitter when you can lose your millions doing it, and have no particularly amazing ideas for a competitor. Most millionaires don't invent things or execute complex ideas. They sit on the couch and contribute even less than if they were hungry with ambition. This applies to most of us, most likely including myself. The millionaires are largely self-made, and were hungry with ambition. That's the portion I'm referring to in the last paragraph. The billionaires that keep doing things and making money like Musk are even rarer yet.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
>Not to mention it pretty much allows you to play AAA games on the online from anywhere you can hold the thing That was simply a tech issue. The PSP in 2004 was capable of playing games from last generation. it was pretty high tech for its time, and sold for about the cost of a Steam Deck's cheapest variant after inflation. It also fit in your pocket, very comfortably. The one thing I feel handhelds gave up in their attempt to reach parity with modern consoles (and partially why I rarely take out handhelds anymore, in lieu of phones). I ultimately bought a GPD Win 4 because it was the smallest form factor while keeping those specs, but It fits in my pocket about as well as my high school jersey fits on my body 12 years later :( >either did the old handhelds allow you to play two player on the same handheld on the go That's a usability issue, not so much a hardware issue to innovate around. Even if the PSP was like a Switch, we're comparing a 4.3 inch LCD screen to a 6-7" switch/SD screen. over double the screen estate. I think the real let down here was Sony not having the kinds of party game software that let multiple PSPs play with one cart, like some DS games did. Or at least, they weren't well known if they did exist.

kaba0 3y ago

I don’t know, these doesn’t sound too innovative to me, just the results of the advancements hardware made.

BuckRogers 3y ago
Talk is cheap. Executing a complex product like the Switch is difficult. My guess is that 99% of the people posting here can’t even envision the product that comes after the Switch and makes such a large impact. And they did not envision the Switch either. Even though now it seems obvious because someone more creative already did it. There’s an easy way to prove me wrong. Create the next Switch and become a billionaire. It’s that easy.
- kaba0 3y ago
  Come on, do you honestly claim that “let’s add a way to connect small screen to big screen” is some grandiose innovation?! That’s definitely a part of a product, but depending on the specifics it might be trivial/not the most important part compared to, say, the actual implementation. Also, let’s not start with this nonsense of “become a billionaire, it only needs that good idea” bullshit. Sure, give me all the connections and resources to actually be able to even play at that league. That’s just a cheap way to shut down the other.
  - BuckRogers 3y ago
    You could take that position. It's like mocking the light bulb though as hardly innovative because torches got the same thing done. I get what you're saying, but I think the key point is execution of an idea. If it were so obvious and so easy, someone other than Nintendo or Apple would actually get it done once every few decades. The billionaire argument isn't bs. If you actually had a great idea, or knew how to execute things well, you'd have either patents or products under your belt. It's just incredibly difficult to execute an idea in the real world. Most people, 99%, don't even have a good idea. The whole thing seems like if you "just had connections and resources" you could do it. But you wouldn't be able to. Most people actually do less with connections and resources. What would your grand idea be? Buy rental apartments? You certainly aren't going to be taking on Twitter when you can lose your millions doing it, and have no particularly amazing ideas for a competitor. Most millionaires don't invent things or execute complex ideas. They sit on the couch and contribute even less than if they were hungry with ambition. This applies to most of us, most likely including myself. The millionaires are largely self-made, and were hungry with ambition. That's the portion I'm referring to in the last paragraph. The billionaires that keep doing things and making money like Musk are even rarer yet.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

>Not to mention it pretty much allows you to play AAA games on the online from anywhere you can hold the thing That was simply a tech issue. The PSP in 2004 was capable of playing games from last generation. it was pretty high tech for its time, and sold for about the cost of a Steam Deck's cheapest variant after inflation. It also fit in your pocket, very comfortably. The one thing I feel handhelds gave up in their attempt to reach parity with modern consoles (and partially why I rarely take out handhelds anymore, in lieu of phones). I ultimately bought a GPD Win 4 because it was the smallest form factor while keeping those specs, but It fits in my pocket about as well as my high school jersey fits on my body 12 years later :( >either did the old handhelds allow you to play two player on the same handheld on the go That's a usability issue, not so much a hardware issue to innovate around. Even if the PSP was like a Switch, we're comparing a 4.3 inch LCD screen to a 6-7" switch/SD screen. over double the screen estate. I think the real let down here was Sony not having the kinds of party game software that let multiple PSPs play with one cart, like some DS games did. Or at least, they weren't well known if they did exist.